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AP 1k super account: HH on page 4, stunning IP info on page 8 from Nat... MUST SEE

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  1. andrechiu andrechiu is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:15pm) in reply to can_am69

    wow. this is more like a thriller movie now. The hero sent out the key evidence before he was killed by the evil AP managment.
  2. Dyzalot Dyzalot is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:22pm) in reply to andrechiu

    LOL... negotiations for movie rights to follow...
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  3. ImSoMucked ImSoMucked is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:23pm) in reply to tcmeb

    Any chance that Absolute wont be able to cover the mass withdrawal of money following and many players wont get money at all?
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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:30pm) in reply to ranchgirl

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  5. intermediary intermediary is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:33pm) in reply to Claw1980

    Im pretty damn convinced there are several compromises, and here is why. (This is from having grown up watching similar shit go down with IGT- the leading developers of progressive slot machines in vegas).

    How this stuff usually goes down is that the software devs (who are notoriously more intelligent than the people who hire them) program in a backdoor to spring things like 'superusers' accounts (Think up,down,up,down,A,B,start selct=unlimited lives). Then, rather than cash in on it themselves- they get an accomplice with very detailed instructions on how to exploit the cheat without being noticed...then they both have a run, split the profits, and the software dev covers their tracks...later on they do it again with someone else...etc.

    The red flags are always raised later on down the line when one of the software dev's previous accomplices goes through their money, and decides to do the same thing with a new accomplice, but are worse at covering their tracks, etc.
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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:38pm) in reply to ImSoMucked

    GOOD POINT APE and whoever said it originally (maybe waco). They have absolutely no right whatsoever to send out a mass hh like that how we play poker is private
     
  7. intermediary intermediary is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:38pm) in reply to apestyles

    ape- what makes you think this?

    and I dont mean that the site itself did this...but the software is certainly "rigged".

    Isolated incident my ass. It may be an isolated case of an account that can see the holecards and made absolutely no attempt to cover up the fact, but why do you think that there are not more accounts out there like this one?
  8. MikeCaroJr MikeCaroJr is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 11:54pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    If you all can see my hole cards, then one or all of you(the ones that currently have the HH), please review my play and tell me the holes in my game as a birthday present. TYVM, Will be looking forward to hearing from you Waco
  9. Bigchip79 Bigchip79 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:00am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    So basically this shit can prove that online poker is rigged? Or just that potripper was cheating?
  10. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:15am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    SHIT STORM!!
    weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Cannot even wait for this.
    I have my umbrella, lawn chair, blunts and I'm posting put, waiting in line.
  11. rmoriar1 rmoriar1 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:16am) in reply to thwlvssmllfr

    100th
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:20am) in reply to intermediary

    Don't mean to nitpick here, but.......

    It's up up down down left right left right B A B A select start
     
  13. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:22am) in reply to Bigchip79

    wow, overgeneralization-man... this proves that on one site there was a security leak of some sort that allowed players to see hole cards. This does not mean "online poker is rigged." Man, with those kinds of conclusions jumped to well... you should work at absolute.
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  14. YourTimeIsUp YourTimeIsUp is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:22am) in reply to rmoriar1

    You people are all fucking retarded.

    There was already infinitely enough proof that the guy could see people's hole cards.

    Anyone who wasn't 100% sure that this guy could see people's hole cards, probably has too low of an IQ to beat .01-.02nl so it doesn't matter.

    AP will NEVER ADMIT that it was compromised.

    People that don't understand poker will NEVER UNDERSTAND FULLY that this guy was cheating.

    This is NEVER GOING TO GET ANYWHERE.

    I lost 20k to these guys at 15-30, and I have already written it off as a helpless loss.

    Seeing his hole cards will be cool, but there was already wayyy more than enogh proof (see 2p2) before that.
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:27am) in reply to New Shawboy

    only 1 B A , u lose
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:28am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    I dont get it....if someone can read holecards why be so stupid to cheat in a tournament? And to win it on top of that? Wouldnt it be smarter to jump around in some midsize cash games? Or bust a highstakes one?
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:29am) in reply to Marton

    You would think so, wouldn't you? But there are more stupid and greedy people in this world than you think.
     
  18. YourTimeIsUp YourTimeIsUp is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:30am) in reply to Marton

    Marton,

    Answer: The cheater's aren't smart. If a smart player got his hands on a super user account. He would just quietly make hundreds of thousands of dollars without ever being blatantly obvious that he was cheating. Thankfully, the people that got hold of this "superuser account" played exactly like a moron would if he could see everyone's hole cards, thus making it only a matter of time before he was caught.

    You shouldn't play on AP because you never know if any good player has a super user account, and not be retarded with it.

    You should probably boycott UB too, because they are affiliated with AP closely, as if HelenRNurse and KrazyKanuck weren't enough of a reason to uninstall UB in the first place.
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:34am) in reply to YourTimeIsUp

    Which is the real scary thing of all of this. If this moron got hold of the account, how many "smart" cheaters are there with the same type of account, absolutely crushing 3-6 and 5-10(or whatever game they choose to play)

    I think AJ brought up this question during the first thread.... Im just mimicking it.
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:37am) in reply to YourTimeIsUp

    I agree

    Ban Helen now

    I don't know KK but WTF did he do
  21. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:39am) in reply to intermediary

    That makes the most sense to me now. I couldnt see someone smart enough to create a superuser account being stupid enough to play in such a manner. This scenario allows for that.
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  22. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:43am) in reply to intermediary

    Meh, this is an isolated incident on one site.

    Absolute is rigged i guess since there is a way to see hole cards.

    usually when people refer to rigged they mean the rng.
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  23. thwlvssmllfr thwlvssmllfr is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:44am) in reply to YourTimeIsUp

    Who said we needed any more convincing of this to be fact?
    Some of us want to see the hand histories, So the fuck what YTIU?
    You act like you aren't posted up here all fuckin day, everyday, waiting for nothing as it is.
  24. LirvA LirvA is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:47am) in reply to CrazyMarco

    Youre positive he folded KQ in that situation? To me, that is the most incrimiating evidence. If you think about a maniac who raises with any trash hand, KQ would be like a fuck fest for them. Thats really hard evidence right there.
  25. LirvA LirvA is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:53am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    Definately post the HH where he folds KQ in early postion when AA was dealt out. I'd like to see that shit.
  26. andrechiu andrechiu is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 12:55am) in reply to Fife19

    yeah. if someone can do this on AP, how about PS and FTP? Are there any superaccounts on these 2 sites too?
  27. wmariner wmariner is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 1:00am) in reply to bigfatstub

    why on earth would anyone even think about playin there...
  28. PocketHeadies PocketHeadies is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 1:00am) in reply to bigfatstub

    i think fox might have to edit this article a little

    http://www.pocketfives.com/40ED5554-...24DBB08E8.aspx
  29. Edals Edals is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 1:00am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    Let's see some hands! Com'on man whet our appetites I'm excited I got a fucking hard-on here.
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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 1:05am) in reply to Edals

    You should probably boycott UB too, because they are affiliated with AP closely, as if HelenRNurse and KrazyKanuck weren't enough of a reason to uninstall UB in the first place.

    QFMFT
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