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AP 1k super account: HH on page 4, stunning IP info on page 8 from Nat... MUST SEE

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  1. shankingyou shankingyou is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:24am) in reply to apestyles

    As far as upper management I would agree they were not. But whoever had access to putting together that new ap 8.0 interface that came out days before this was def in the know.
  2. LirvA LirvA is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:27am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    looking through these hh's I would have to assume that the RNG is legitimate and the "superuser" wasnt able to see the next cards to be dealt. But this is DEFINATELY cold hard evidence that the "superuser" could see every opponents hole cards.
  3. ShooterJ ShooterJ is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:32am) in reply to LirvA

    this is very gross
  4. CZuke39 CZuke39 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:35am) in reply to New Shawboy

    haha wasnt that the code for Sonic the Hedgehog
     
  5. Marton Marton is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:37am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    So with that obvious writing on the wall one interesting question would be: How did he do it ?

    1. Someone on the inside( at AP) reading the cards to him over the phone or something.
    2. Snooper software inside the APs network grid.
    3. Faulty server software sending out card info to all clients, that he somehow found a way to decrypt and read on the client side. (ie everybody gets it but some have found a way to read it)

    My guess would be 3...since it also to some extent could explain why Marco got a hand history that shows everything.
  6. andrechiu andrechiu is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:41am) in reply to Marton

    yeah. I also want to know the answers to these questions. because this will lead to the answer to a more important question: could the same things be done to stars and FTP?
  7. rdog rdog is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:46am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    In other words, we have determined with reasonable certainty that it is impossible for any player or employee to see hole cards as was alleged. There is no part of the technology that allows for a “superuser” account, and there is no way for any person to influence the game software to their advantage. We base this finding on a thorough security check on a technological level, coupled with a thorough investigation of hand histories including those that did not go to a showdown.
    A ‘super-user’ account does not exist in our software. Absolute Poker was created by poker players who value security and fair play. The back-end of the Absolute Poker software prevents the possibility of any such feature. Our game client only receives data regarding an individual’s hand and no other player hole cards are ever visible – by anyone – except in the event of a showdown.

    My favorite parts of their statement. Seriously, not only are they lying thieves, but they are retarded too.
  8. CrazyMarco CrazyMarco is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:50am) in reply to rdog

    Absolute Poker never divulges personal information about our players nor do we make public any hand information that did not go to a showdown, ever.

    This one sentence put me on such life tilt I spent hours to make this file easier to read then the one they sent me.
  9. rmoriar1 rmoriar1 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:53am) in reply to CrazyMarco

    LOL
  10. 1.21Gigawatts 1.21Gigawatts is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:54am) in reply to CrazyMarco

    Fucking POTR0AST made that whole HH difficult to read. I kept mixing up the two screenames.
  11. rdog rdog is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 4:56am) in reply to CrazyMarco

    Seriously man, you deserve first place money but I have a feeling that line is going to be long from the fallout over all of this. Anyone who plays there just based on principle (not even taking security into consideration) is an idiot.
  12. bukowski101 bukowski101 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:02am) in reply to rdog

    VOMIT
     
  13. FouTight FouTight is online now international super spy

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:02am) in reply to CrazyMarco

    <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#eeeedd"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> </td><td>Re(2): AP 1k super account HH now posted on page 4... MUST SEE
    by CrazyMarco on 10/14/2007 03:50 </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td><nobr> </nobr> </td><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td></td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td bgcolor="#ffffff"></td><td colspan="2"><table celspacing="0" border="0" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>Absolute Poker never divulges personal information about our players nor do we make public any hand information that did not go to a showdown, ever. Unless a player request a Hand History from a previous tourney, then we show all the cards all the time.
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  14. Edals Edals is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:04am) in reply to 1.21Gigawatts

    Fucking POTR0AST made that whole HH difficult to read. I kept mixing up the two screenames.

    Glad I'm not the only one.

    PUKE at all this bullshit. I had started to play on Absolute like 3 days before this all got out and as soon as I heard about it I got the fuck out of dodge.
  15. SixPackofBud SixPackofBud is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:04am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    i want to thank Marco and Waco for taking the time to post this and share it with us all. now i think it's time everyone emails AP and tells them what they think about it starting w/an email and followed by a withdrawing any $ they have there...
  16. OGPokerman OGPokerman is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:13am) in reply to FouTight

    So did they freeze his account? What is happening? They denied everything?
    Cant see anyone playing on this site anymore. Thanks for going thru this trouble for us to see. No Question that he seen the cards. No doubt about it.

    I like how when marco had the second pair nine and the dude didnt try to blow him off his hand suspecting marco would call. That was a classic HH i think. He knew he didnt have top pair but he was scared marco would call anyway...lol

    I hope everyone gets their money back and this guy is fucked royally...keep us posted.
    Im scared..Imahomo
     
  17. just-jOHnny just-jOHnny is offline I got nothin

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:13am) in reply to SixPackofBud

    Nicley done! On it all-ready.
  18. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:26am) in reply to shankingyou

    I think thats a pretty good theory. It did all happen right around the time of the new ap 8.0 interface right?
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  19. JDeEzLy JDeEzLy is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:30am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    gg AP. UB soon to follow?
  20. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:36am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    If the admins at AP know shit about poker and went over those hand histories they have to know that POTRIPPER was able to see all of his opponents hole cards. And to have a press release that blatantly contradicts their actions. What a fucking mess. Everyone at that ft should recieve compensation, I also hope they catch everyone responsible.
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  21. Ariganello Ariganello is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:45am) in reply to apestyles

    Its sick that they can say they went over the whole HH of the 1k tourney and found no evidence of fraud. Its 100% certain he can see everyone holes cards. This site is in trouble.
  22. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:45am) in reply to apestyles

    in all honesty, and despite his poor hand selection, he did make some pretty sick reads.
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  23. Quads420 Quads420 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:54am) in reply to Mr_BigQueso

    Yea, I dont't see what the big deal is either... I mean I woulda snap-called with 10 9 on that final hand too... 10 high with no draw and one to come is the stone nuts against Marco obv
     
  24. grahamtastic grahamtastic is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 5:57am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    maybe he's just really good and you are all jealous
  25. gank gank is offline 'tis always ganktober

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:09am) in reply to grahamtastic

    GG ABSOLUTE

    ty marco and waco for taking the time to go through all of this Absolute shit!
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  26. wild_ride wild_ride is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:20am) in reply to gank

    Best gank post in a while ^^^

    lets show AP tha dispite all our disagraments... p5s , the smartes online conmunity we can agree that what ap has been doing since this came out its unnacceptable

    even gank and mkind can agree on this
  27. perma_tilt perma_tilt is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:21am) in reply to Kenny Rap

    fck this is crazy shit, hacking piece of shit someone get the dudes home addy lol
  28. PocketHeadies PocketHeadies is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:24am) in reply to gank

    yea for real....ty marco and waco, im sure that shit took forever to put together (esp deleting the antes and stuff)

    how do we know there arent super accounts on other sites....

    i saw someone making some sick calls on bodog, about a week ago, that would never make sense and i was automatically thinking and accusing them of being a super account (because of this incident) and every told me i was just paranoid (probably was)...and i think it is affecting my play.....lol

    gg internet poker
  29. pokerprolific pokerprolific is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:40am) in reply to PocketHeadies

    i don't even know what to say..............
  30. Ariganello Ariganello is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2007 (10/14/2007 6:43am) in reply to PocketHeadies

    If this was to come out and AP said someone was able to run a program that calculated the out come of the players hole cards. Then all the sites that run that particular card generator are at risk. I would be very surprised is a random guy at home or in a office of some sort was actually able to see there cards and did not work for AP. To be able to hack into a system and see everyone at the table cards would be a great accomplishment.
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