Last night in the 1k second chance at the Rio:

blinds at 200/400 a 50. utg goes all in for 450. old texan guy that has been hit with the deck and has 21k smooth calls. kid behind him with 22k says 'ill go all-in'. it folds back to tex:

tex: 'did you just go all-in?'
kid: 'yes i did'
tex: 'are you sure?'
kid: 'well now i don't know'
tex: 'well do you have me covered?'
kid: 'i think it's close'
approx 1 minute after action came back to him:
tex: 'well i guess i have to call you' as he flips over AA

the kid flips over JJ and we start berating tex for slowrolling. the aces hold and we continue yelling at the guy. during this time tex says, 'well you shouldn't have played jacks that way'
this pissed me off since he just slowrolled/won a monster pot off the kid, and now he's twisting the knife by criticizing his play.
a woman starts babbling and defending the slowroll. i say, 'STOP, theres no debate over whether it was an asshole play, it was an asshole play.'

after coming home and telling the story to the housemates it hit me that he likely wasn't trying to be an asshole. the guy was horrible at poker. he had made a comment earlier indicating that he really valued his 'tournament life'. he also said he folded 88 in the big blind after a raise and 3 callers. i asked him why and he said there were too many players in the pot for pocket eights?!?

i'm about 62.3% sure he wasn't trying to be an asshole and just didn't know what slowrolling is.

if i run into tex again should i apologize or continue to wish aids upon him?

I think you made your statement at the table. It was a very inconsiderate move on his part. If he did it on purpose, he got what he deserved. If he did it without knowing, and was actually thinking (about anything other than doubling up), now he knows not to make the same mistake in the future. I see no need for an apology here. I also see no need to continue berating this guy if you see him in the future. You said what you had to say, the table (with the exception of the above mentioned lady) confirmed your sentiments. No need for further abuse. IMO

You seem to be really putting a lot of thought into this. If that is the case, then you should apologize when you see the old man. You will feel good about it and he will feel good about it. Plus the good Karma can't hurt!!!

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Now maybe he won't slowroll someone else. How else is he going to learn that it's an asshole move if someone doesn't point it out?

This type of shit happened to me in the Venetian Deep stacks.. old people kept trying to defend their plays and criticize the way I played my hands...F -em.. they just don't understand and obviously this guy has no idea what he is talking about.. don't apologize.. because your thought process is on a way higher level.

this is why when i'm playing a live MTT i don't give a shit about anyone but my best interests, i find that when you get into it with people at the table it just adds this extra element that you don't need in a MTT

And for those of you who say you need to point out slow rollers so they dont do it again, fair enough. Just do it in a civilized way.

I wouldn't apologize, but then again i'm an asshole too and slowroll every chance I get.

True story:

Last week in a home game I play in a woman who plays quite often went into the tank before calling w/ AA against 1 other player, all-in preflop. When we all looked at her like she was on crack she said "What? I hate AA. I always lose with this hand. I don't wanna get knocked out of the game so early."

So yes...people like that really do exist.

(the only thing funnier is when the other player turned over 5h 3h)

the shipitdotcom i know would not apologize!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yes, slowrolling can lead to tilt, but it's also horrible table ettiquette that in the old days would have you scared shitless to walk to your car. It's like bunting to break up a no hitter, you just shouldn't do it.

I've found that live there's a lot of players who don't like going all in pre flop. A lot of people feel more comfortable after the cards are out even if AA all in pre flop is a painfully easy decision to make. It's bad etiquette but it happens.

If you are seriously considering whether an apology is needed, then you already have your answer: an apology is needed.

You are not responsible for whether he is a dick, slowrolls, is a jerk, etc. You only need to keep your side of the street clean.

Tex got disconnected? It'll amaze you how bad some of these live connections are.

Seriously tho, if it bothers you so much whether you might have been rude or not, you should probably not have become involved in accusing him of slowrolling. However its quite possible that he actually was considering folding. I've played with two players who have bragged about folding aces preflop in the past when they had plenty of chips. One of them has supposedly won several decent sized tournaments, and was bragging about how he folded the aces with the CL at a final table after two players moved all in, and would have lost. He justified his play by saying that he managed to win the tournament by folding the aces, and proceeded to try to explain to me how the play was correct, and there are occasions like this where you should fold aces preflop, and that I was too young to understand or something along those lines. Supposedly, AA isn't a favourite against two all ins.

He felt AK was far superior and he'd much prefer to have AK to AA. Seems to have misinterpretted Doyle. At least when he called my all in I knew I wasn't up against aces ;). Unfortunately his AK took it down, and he eliminated me with just a small cash, and went on to take 3rd.

The other guy just KNEW that his AA won't hold at some times, so he told me he's mucked it many times preflop. He gets this FEELING, and goes with it every time :P

I admit, I've folded AA a couple times preflop. Online disconnects are awesome. Maybe I just don't have the skills to get away from it, its only a pair after all, right?

So a guy who gets 10-20 bunt hits per year has to not use that important tool in his game in the 8th inning of a 1-0 no-hitter? That seems almost as dumb as the "don't steal with a big lead" rule. I don't play "angles" at the tables so I would never slowroll in a live event. I can't avoid it happening sometimes online though as I usually multi-table. If it puts others on tilt as a result, even better for me. Don't apologize, I've had "serious" live tourney players tell me how "intelligent" a play it is to lay down aces preflop with three people all-in before you. He was just clueless I'm sure and an apology would just confuse him more.