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  1. What should my move here be? Flat? Shove? Fold? I had not played much at this table yet and no notes on SirWatts

    pokerstars Game #17764284426: Tournament #89516774, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/05/28 - 23:07:12 (ET)
    Table '89516774 78' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: CheapThieves (14504 in chips)
    Seat 2: grapedrink07 (7305 in chips)
    Seat 3: Marifjeren (4325 in chips)
    Seat 4: Asiandude77 (6463 in chips)
    Seat 5: BonesMaster (12290 in chips)
    Seat 6: bfull (9010 in chips)
    Seat 7: SirWatts (5315 in chips)
    Seat 8: lilholdem954 (15195 in chips)
    Seat 9: flip123077 (7660 in chips)
    Marifjeren: posts small blind 100
    Asiandude77: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bfull [Ac Qd]
    BonesMaster: folds
    bfull: raises 400 to 600
    SirWatts: raises 1400 to 2000
    lilholdem954: folds
    flip123077: folds
    CheapThieves: folds
    grapedrink07: folds
    Marifjeren: folds
    Asiandude77: folds
  2. fold
  3. lol hopefully u folded
     
  4. I did fold, but SirWatts was 3 adn 4 betting like his house was on fire. His 4th time was this. Just made me wonder if there is any other good play here besides folding:
    pokerstars Game #17764510020: Tournament #89516774, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/05/28 - 23:19:48 (ET)
    Table '89516774 78' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: CheapThieves (21084 in chips)
    Seat 3: Marifjeren (3575 in chips)
    Seat 4: Asiandude77 (4758 in chips)
    Seat 5: BonesMaster (13765 in chips)
    Seat 6: bfull (7335 in chips)
    Seat 7: SirWatts (8195 in chips)
    Seat 8: lilholdem954 (16345 in chips)
    Seat 9: flip123077 (7010 in chips)
    CheapThieves: posts the ante 25
    Marifjeren: posts the ante 25
    Asiandude77: posts the ante 25
    BonesMaster: posts the ante 25
    bfull: posts the ante 25
    SirWatts: posts the ante 25
    lilholdem954: posts the ante 25
    flip123077: posts the ante 25
    bfull: posts small blind 125
    SirWatts: posts big blind 250
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bfull [3d 9s]
    lilholdem954: folds
    flip123077: folds
    CheapThieves: folds
    Marifjeren: folds
    Asiandude77: raises 430 to 680
    BonesMaster: folds
    bfull: folds
    SirWatts: raises 6820 to 7500
    Asiandude77: calls 4053 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (2767) returned to SirWatts
    *** FLOP *** [8c 7d Jh]
    *** TURN *** [8c 7d Jh] [Tc]
    *** RIVER *** [8c 7d Jh Tc] [5d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SirWatts: shows [4h 4c] (a pair of Fours)
    Asiandude77: shows [Td Ks] (a pair of Tens)
    Asiandude77 collected 9791 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9791 | Rake 0
    Board [8c 7d Jh Tc 5d]
    Seat 1: CheapThieves folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Marifjeren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Asiandude77 showed [Td Ks] and won (9791) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 5: BonesMaster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: bfull (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: SirWatts (big blind) showed [4h 4c] and lost with a pair of Fours
    Seat 8: lilholdem954 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: flip123077 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Thread Starter
  5. The game changes once antes hit. First hand Watts is never reraising you light, infact his range there is probably pretty tight. Probably QQ+, AK. Second hand shove seems standard.
     
  6. Menlo would sure as hell fold so thats good enough for me.
  7. the second hand you posted has nothing to do with the first. i fold against pretty much anyone, but def against Watts.
     
  8. Fold because your hand is murdered by his range. You are a little more than 50-50 against 44+, A9+, KQs here.