Raise.......see what happens. No way I'm mucking AQ here in a $1 tourney.

A min raise with two limpers already in seems a little small to me isn't it?

LOL at min raising with two limpers in. Well now if it gets back to you without being 4 bet you pretty much have to call given the odds. Reevaluate after the flop.

I know... I should have made a real raise instead of just clicking bet... seriously my initial instinct was just fold it, I was sitting in the top 10 stacks for over 1.5 before donating half of it during that hand... ugh. $6.66 can suck my butt....

I jammed flop on purpose because I though he had KK or QQ or 99...

2ofdakind: raises 5000 to 10000
jestru48: folds
mmmkkkmmm: folds
TRAKINAS1974: folds
mimo69a: folds
bcdrmr: calls 5000
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ad Jh]
bcdrmr: bets 157106 and is all-in
2ofdakind: calls 78903 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (78203) returned to bcdrmr
*** TURN *** [Tc Ad Jh] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Ad Jh 6d] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bcdrmr: shows [Qs As] (a pair of Aces)
2ofdakind: shows [Kc Ac] (a pair of Aces - King kicker)
2ofdakind collected 189256 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 189256 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Ad Jh 6d 2s]
Seat 1: TRAKINAS1974 folded before Flop
Seat 2: mimo69a folded before Flop
Seat 3: bcdrmr showed [Qs As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: mickeydanger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 2ofdakind (button) showed [Kc Ac] and won (189256) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: jestru48 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mmmkkkmmm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ALIEN270 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FVB_21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

if u put him on kk qq 99 then hes just gonna fold n u dont want ppl with worse hands to fold when u have them crushed right? pf u shud make it like 8-10k,,,n depending on his 3-bet size id prolly fold. but as played being this is a 1$ turny im proly calling this 5k more n chking the flop n just flatting most flop bets looking to keep the pot small and proceeding from ther.

I hate open shoving this flop. Almost never getting called by anything other than hands you're smashed by (though given it is a $1, you'll probably get spewtards pay you off with Ax or KK)

raise everyday

 

Originally Posted by mdshack14

You really shouldn't be thinking of open folding this pre against players who haven't shown any strength in the hand yet. With a hand as strong as AQ vs random limpers in a $1 tourney you should definitely try and play the hand. Now how you play it is where you're instincts and reads come into play. Nitting it up is ok.......this is not one of those times preflop though.

agrizee

yea good move you want to make yourself strong especially at end game so anyway to double up is good, now if you are reraised here you should be concerned especially for all your chips if it cost you about half-14th your stack you can gamble to an opponents all in reraise.

so much bad in this thread....

 

Originally Posted by bcdrmr

pokerstars Game #52140111873: Tournament #338010843, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (1250/2500) - 2010/11/03 22:54:30 ET
Table '338010843 55' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: TRAKINAS1974 (59968 in chips)
Seat 2: mimo69a (146270 in chips)
Seat 3: bcdrmr (167406 in chips)
Seat 4: mickeydanger (125593 in chips)
Seat 5: 2ofdakind (89203 in chips)
Seat 6: jestru48 (18020 in chips)
Seat 7: mmmkkkmmm (101092 in chips)
Seat 8: ALIEN270 (43833 in chips)
Seat 9: FVB_21 (32509 in chips)
TRAKINAS1974: posts the ante 300
mimo69a: posts the ante 300
bcdrmr: posts the ante 300
mickeydanger: posts the ante 300
2ofdakind: posts the ante 300
jestru48: posts the ante 300
mmmkkkmmm: posts the ante 300
ALIEN270: posts the ante 300
FVB_21: posts the ante 300
jestru48: posts small blind 1250
mmmkkkmmm: posts big blind 2500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bcdrmr [Qs As]
ALIEN270: folds
FVB_21: folds
TRAKINAS1974: calls 2500
mimo69a: calls 2500
bcdrmr: is thinking.... somebody limping a decent pair? KK? JJ? Do I reraise to find out? Fold? I'm 6/118 right now...

what is making you think kk/jj.. its a $1 tourney, sure that is part of thier range, but so is j8os. I feel like ur just overthinking/playing scared with a huge chipstack (With almost 70bbs and only limpers in the pot I am playing AQ all day...)

 

Originally Posted by bcdrmr

so fire away... what next

Dealt to bcdrmr [Qs As]
ALIEN270: folds
FVB_21: folds
TRAKINAS1974: calls 2500
mimo69a: calls 2500
bcdrmr: raises 2500 to 5000
mickeydanger: folds
2ofdakind: raises 5000 to 10000
jestru48: folds
mmmkkkmmm: folds
TRAKINAS1974: folds
mimo69a: folds
bcdrmr: ?????

make a real raise after to limpers... taking the pot there is nt bad... prolly 8-9k

 

Originally Posted by bcdrmr

I know... I should have made a real raise instead of just clicking bet... seriously my initial instinct was just fold it, I was sitting in the top 10 stacks for over 1.5 before donating half of it during that hand... ugh. $6.66 can suck my butt....

I jammed flop on purpose because I though he had KK or QQ or 99...

2ofdakind: raises 5000 to 10000
jestru48: folds
mmmkkkmmm: folds
TRAKINAS1974: folds
mimo69a: folds
bcdrmr: calls 5000
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ad Jh]
bcdrmr: bets 157106 and is all-in
2ofdakind: calls 78903 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (78203) returned to bcdrmr
*** TURN *** [Tc Ad Jh] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Ad Jh 6d] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bcdrmr: shows [Qs As] (a pair of Aces)
2ofdakind: shows [Kc Ac] (a pair of Aces - King kicker)
2ofdakind collected 189256 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 189256 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Ad Jh 6d 2s]
Seat 1: TRAKINAS1974 folded before Flop
Seat 2: mimo69a folded before Flop
Seat 3: bcdrmr showed [Qs As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: mickeydanger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 2ofdakind (button) showed [Kc Ac] and won (189256) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: jestru48 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mmmkkkmmm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ALIEN270 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FVB_21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

just folding is bad.... being top 10 in chips isnt important. conitnue to make optimal plays, with over 100 left you cant ride that stack to the final table by folding

 

Originally Posted by bcdrmr

I know... I should have made a real raise instead of just clicking bet... seriously my initial instinct was just fold it, I was sitting in the top 10 stacks for over 1.5 before donating half of it during that hand... ugh. $6.66 can suck my butt....

I jammed flop on purpose because I though he had KK or QQ or 99...

2ofdakind: raises 5000 to 10000
jestru48: folds
mmmkkkmmm: folds
TRAKINAS1974: folds
mimo69a: folds
bcdrmr: calls 5000
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ad Jh]
bcdrmr: bets 157106 and is all-in
2ofdakind: calls 78903 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (78203) returned to bcdrmr
*** TURN *** [Tc Ad Jh] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Ad Jh 6d] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bcdrmr: shows [Qs As] (a pair of Aces)
2ofdakind: shows [Kc Ac] (a pair of Aces - King kicker)
2ofdakind collected 189256 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 189256 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Ad Jh 6d 2s]
Seat 1: TRAKINAS1974 folded before Flop
Seat 2: mimo69a folded before Flop
Seat 3: bcdrmr showed [Qs As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: mickeydanger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 2ofdakind (button) showed [Kc Ac] and won (189256) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: jestru48 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mmmkkkmmm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ALIEN270 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FVB_21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i dont wanna come of harsh, but what exactly gives you this range that wouldnt also include TT or JJ... when i read this my thought was when players stack off cuz they say i put u on ak, so were flipping... and like others said what hands do you beat that are going to call you... AQ only beats pocketpairs that missed... AK,AJ,AT,88+ is prolly a solid range to give him here, and most of it beats you. The hands you dont beat are never calling.

 

Originally Posted by bcdrmr

gut was just to fold, I was 6th in stack with 100 folks left, wasn't a reason to be in behind a few guys limping with who knows what / any pair... this was all my first thoughts.

with aq theres plenty of reason to put chips in the middle even after limpers.. you are playing a deep stack.

overall i feel by most of your posts that you are playing somewhat scared... this is a point in the tourney where alot of players really push their stacks and abuse all of those wanting to slowly move up... Nitting it up at this level isnt bad, but you gotta play ur big hands...

i hope i dont come across harsh as im trying to give constructive critism...

In a $1 event (or even higher), I'm raising this to 4.5 bb, because of the limpers. Many of these players will l/c any suited cards in any position, and a min-raise serves only to sweeten the pot, as they won't be going anywhere for the extra 2500. If one of the players who limped likes to lrr, you need to take care, but more often, it's simply a player who doesn't understand how to play.

im raising pre to 10 or 11k and not folding to either of the limpers. (first one only has 24bbs, second one isn't overlimping a better hand) re-eval to other action, based on reads, etc. the great part about having a stack is you can experiment with situations like this and not threaten your tourney life. stop playing scared it's a $1 tourney everyone in it sucks, open folding this pre should never cross your mind.