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AQs one from money top ten stack...wwyd?

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  1. toastynuts toastynuts is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 2:36pm)

    this is from the AP 20k guarantee $120 buyin a few days ago

    Stage #1875882612 Tourney ID 4620244 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 1,600 - 2009-09-08 00:07:24.012 (ET) [ 2009-09-08 00:07:24 ]
    Table: 7 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
    Seat 7 - TAKDATTAKDAT (94,609 in chips)
    Seat 8 - SYMI (12,261 in chips)
    Seat 9 - THIRSTYJIM09 (47,941 in chips)
    Seat 1 - ZZZION (26,127 in chips)
    Seat 2 - CAPTAINRUSS (59,898 in chips)
    Seat 4 - TOASTYNUTS (53,734 in chips)
    Seat 5 - UNBAY2K4 (29,618 in chips)
    ZZZION - Ante 150
    CAPTAINRUSS - Ante 150
    TOASTYNUTS - Ante 150
    UNBAY2K4 - Ante 150
    TAKDATTAKDAT - Ante 150
    SYMI - Ante 150
    THIRSTYJIM09 - Ante 150
    SYMI - Posts small blind 800
    THIRSTYJIM09 - Posts big blind 1,600
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to TOASTYNUTS [Ac Qc]
    ZZZION - Raises 3,200 to 3,200
    CAPTAINRUSS - Folds
    TOASTYNUTS - Raises 11,450 to 11,450
    UNBAY2K4 - Folds
    TAKDATTAKDAT - Calls 11,450
    SYMI - Folds
    THIRSTYJIM09 - Folds (Preselection)
    ZZZION - All-In(Raise) 22,777 to 25,977
    TOASTYNUTS - All-In(Raise) 42,134 to 53,584
    TAKDATTAKDAT - Calls 42,134

    What do the other 2 players show up with here? How was this hand played? other thoughts?
  2. anticure anticure is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 4:17pm) in reply to toastynuts

    standard...dont 3bet orginal raiser if ur not getting in agianst him...second guy has AA or KK UL
     
  3. revolvingiris revolvingiris is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 4:24pm) in reply to anticure

    Remember being able to fold also gives you an edge.
  4. Iplaythabored Iplaythabored is offline ghost writer

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 4:32pm) in reply to revolvingiris

     
    Originally Posted by revolvingiris View Post

    Remember being able to fold also gives you an edge.

    not if u r doing it when u shouldnt be
     
  5. snaggs snaggs is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 9:37pm) in reply to Iplaythabored

    I prob just call the small stack shove instead of coming over the top. Gives me an opportunity to hit if villain calls (which he has already done once) or fold if he repops leaving me shortish (28k) but not dead.
     
  6. ATrainBoston ATrainBoston is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2009 (9/12/2009 10:18pm) in reply to snaggs

    I think your key here is going to be your reads on the two players you are involved with. If the big stack that flat-called your three bet is a good player, you have to be worried that he is setting you up. You could then fold the original raiser's shove. On the other other hand, if he is a bad player, and he is calling just so he can "see the flop", you should be way ahead of him and go ahead and get your money in.

    As far as reading the first player, he has only about 15, 16 big blinds so you should normally be happy to take AQ to war with him. However, he is in early position. If he's a super tight player, especially a player who tightens around the bubble, you could even fold your AQ. That would be a quite rare occurrence. I think the three bet is normal, but I think also your bet size is a little too big as a further point. Unfortunately, when you shoved, you were hoping to fold the big stack out and since you didn't, he should have you crushed here. What did they have?
     
  7. jcpeace jcpeace is offline

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    Sep 13th, 2009 (9/13/2009 12:30am) in reply to toastynuts

    Sucks being dominated with that much moolah in the pot.
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    Sep 13th, 2009 (9/13/2009 5:15pm) in reply to toastynuts

    Two guys risking their stacks in a spot like this one spot from the money?? Sucks to do but I'd fold, these guys should have QQ+ or AK.
  9. armymedik1 armymedik1 is offline

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    Sep 13th, 2009 (9/13/2009 7:32pm) in reply to toastynuts

    Not realy sure how you raise 11,450 to 11,450?? is hand history edited?
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