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AQs w/ 20x facing a 13x shove.

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  1. blarkin blarkin is offline

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    Aug 8th, 2012 (8/8/2012 3:57am)

    Do you like a shove over initial Allin or a Fold here and why? The shover is 11 (15) /15 (16) over 256 (stats for early position). To act behind:
    Tim is 6/30 over 127. Fivebet is 9/14 over 875. Donk is 12/27 over 302. Thanks.

    ***** Hand History for Game 59484083131 ***** (Merge)
    Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 07, 07:32:32 ET 2012
    Table 3000 Guaranteed 11 Unlimited Rebuys and Addon (59172514) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: torrey5 ( $7800.00 USD )
    Seat 2: dconcepcion ( $11776.00 USD )
    Seat 3: TimLovesTiffanie ( $19446.00 USD )
    Seat 4: fivebetmylifeaway ( $5482.00 USD )
    Seat 5: DONKASSASSINN ( $25782.00 USD )
    Seat 6: jackalteo ( $20423.00 USD )
    Seat 7: RonMund ( $8272.00 USD )
    Seat 8: Megabet34 ( $7842.00 USD )
    Seat 9: Hemiviper ( $13495.00 USD )
    torrey5 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    dconcepcion posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    TimLovesTiffanie posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    jackalteo posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    RonMund posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Megabet34 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Hemiviper posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts small blind [$300.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts big blind [$600.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to dconcepcion [ Qc Ac ]
  2. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Aug 8th, 2012 (8/8/2012 4:25am) in reply to blarkin

    can we get a complete hand history please

    what do your hud stats even mean. are they backwards?
  3. TILTOHOLIC TILTOHOLIC is offline

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    Aug 8th, 2012 (8/8/2012 4:46am) in reply to downbylaw11

    id isolate, probably just shove, seems normal, a cooler if you lose
  4. boneralert boneralert is offline

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    Aug 8th, 2012 (8/8/2012 5:40am) in reply to TILTOHOLIC

    Is it torrey5 who shoves here? If so, definitely shove over that. You're doing fine against his range, probably crushing it unless he is a nit, and shoving is pretty much the only option with 19.5 BBs.

    And it is generally customary to put stats like this: VPIP/PFR as opposed to the other way around, at least when posting histories for a wider audience.
     
  5. cracker9ball cracker9ball is offline

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    Aug 8th, 2012 (8/8/2012 6:17am) in reply to boneralert

    HH fail, prob shoving tho, if your not shoving AQs over an open w 20bbs what are you doing?
     
  6. blarkin blarkin is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2012 (8/11/2012 4:37am) in reply to cracker9ball

    That was a great guess, it is torrey who shoves. Here's the complete HH.

    ***** Hand History for Game 59484083131 ***** (Merge)
    Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 07, 07:32:32 ET 2012
    Table 3000 Guaranteed 11 Unlimited Rebuys and Addon (59172514) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: torrey5 ( $7800.00 USD )
    Seat 2: dconcepcion ( $11776.00 USD )
    Seat 3: TimLovesTiffanie ( $19446.00 USD )
    Seat 4: fivebetmylifeaway ( $5482.00 USD )
    Seat 5: DONKASSASSINN ( $25782.00 USD )
    Seat 6: jackalteo ( $20423.00 USD )
    Seat 7: RonMund ( $8272.00 USD )
    Seat 8: Megabet34 ( $7842.00 USD )
    Seat 9: Hemiviper ( $13495.00 USD )
    torrey5 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    dconcepcion posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    TimLovesTiffanie posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    jackalteo posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    RonMund posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Megabet34 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Hemiviper posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts small blind [$300.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts big blind [$600.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to dconcepcion [ Qc Ac ]
    jackalteo folds
    RonMund folds
    Megabet34 raises [$7782.00 USD]
    Hemiviper folds
    torrey5 folds
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  7. blarkin blarkin is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2012 (8/11/2012 4:40am) in reply to blarkin

    Dangit, I meant to say it was megabet who shoves. Not torrey.
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  8. blarkin blarkin is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2012 (8/11/2012 4:43am) in reply to blarkin

    Let me repost since I put up incomplete HH last time:

    Do you like a shove over initial Allin or a Fold here and why? The shover is 11 (15) /15 (16) over 256 (stats for early position). To act behind:
    Tim is 6/30 over 127. Fivebet is 9/14 over 875. Donk is 12/27 over 302. Thanks.


    ***** Hand History for Game 59484083131 ***** (Merge)
    Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 07, 07:32:32 ET 2012
    Table 3000 Guaranteed 11 Unlimited Rebuys and Addon (59172514) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: torrey5 ( $7800.00 USD )
    Seat 2: dconcepcion ( $11776.00 USD )
    Seat 3: TimLovesTiffanie ( $19446.00 USD )
    Seat 4: fivebetmylifeaway ( $5482.00 USD )
    Seat 5: DONKASSASSINN ( $25782.00 USD )
    Seat 6: jackalteo ( $20423.00 USD )
    Seat 7: RonMund ( $8272.00 USD )
    Seat 8: Megabet34 ( $7842.00 USD )
    Seat 9: Hemiviper ( $13495.00 USD )
    torrey5 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    dconcepcion posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    TimLovesTiffanie posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    jackalteo posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    RonMund posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Megabet34 posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    Hemiviper posts ante of [$60.00 USD].
    fivebetmylifeaway posts small blind [$300.00 USD].
    DONKASSASSINN posts big blind [$600.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to dconcepcion [ Qc Ac ]
    jackalteo folds
    RonMund folds
    Megabet34 raises [$7782.00 USD]
    Hemiviper folds
    torrey5 folds
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  9. Pick6man Pick6man is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2012 (8/11/2012 4:56am) in reply to blarkin

    Easy jam......you have 19bbs, AQs figures to do ok against his shoving range and his stats do not suggest that he is a lockdown nit. Unlikely the 2 bigger stacks to your left will have a hand to call with and the shorty can't hurt you.
     
  10. SorryImDrunk SorryImDrunk is offline Trade with Caution, trade on PocketFives reported as delayed - Could be a scammer

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    Aug 11th, 2012 (8/11/2012 4:59am) in reply to blarkin

     
    Originally Posted by blarkin View Post

    Dangit, I meant to say it was megabet who shoves. Not torrey.

    . I'm so confused at this point. I'll just read the title to the thread and say throw out the stats. This is always a reshove imo
     
  11. Mr_Slugfest Mr_Slugfest is offline

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    Aug 12th, 2012 (8/12/2012 9:23am) in reply to SorryImDrunk

    Megabet34 is shoving ~10 BB and our AQ is in good shape against hands the type of hands he is shoving there. re-shove 20BB every time.
    Edited By: Mr_Slugfest Aug 12th, 2012 at 09:23 AM
  12. bonflizubi bonflizubi is online now

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    Aug 12th, 2012 (8/12/2012 3:39pm) in reply to Mr_Slugfest

    reship all day!
     
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