10k main - 20k starting stacks. playing 8 handed with 2 ppl who haven't arrived yet, including the sb in following hand. Reads on the table include:

cutoff is young Australian player who is wearing a anzpt pokerstars hat, chatting it up. he sounds competent.

button is another kid with fohawk and cooler looking black glasses. may or may not be australian

sb is not there

bb is 30-40 yr old quiet australian

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I open AKo in hijack to 275, cutoff flats, button makes it 850. folds to me. I call, cutoff folds.

Flop comes k7d8d. I check, villian bets 1650. I call (no diamond in hand).

Turn is 3o. I check, villian bets 3650. I call.

River is Jo. I check, villian bets almost 11k. What next?

fwiw, he didn't take very long in making any of his bets. physically, i read him for strength, if anything.

I wouldn't get crazy with one pair in a deep stack. Probably repop the flop and fold to a shove. As played he shows you AA when you call.

Reraising flop for info is not good. What if he proceeds to shove a flush draw or a straight draw (or the same hand, for that matter)? Incomplete information in holdem' makes raising for info an awful decision because he could proceed with worse (for a number of crazy reasons). I wrote about this in an earlier post I made - see my older posts for further explanation.

Also, do you think he goes pot pot pot with AA, especially on river? Does he valuebet pot for 11k of his 13k on river with just top pair when board comes second broadway?

I tried to get more info on turn, but he wasn't giving anything off. Plus, I like to balance my reactions when I'm playing live. In other words, if I chose to talk during this hand and end up showing my hand, then I'm going to want to talk in most pots I'm involved in later so as to not give up anything unintentionally (if that makes sense). Because I don't usually talk in a hand, I didn't say anything in this pot until the player bet the river and I was only left with the decision to call or fold...

 

Originally Posted by Squintngo

Reraising flop for info is not good. What if he proceeds to shove a flush draw or a straight draw (or the same hand, for that matter)? Incomplete information in holdem' makes raising for info an awful decision because he could proceed with worse (for a number of crazy reasons). I wrote about this in an earlier post I made - see my older posts for further explanation.

Also, do you think he goes pot pot pot with AA, especially on river? Does he valuebet pot for 11k of his 13k on river with just top pair when board comes second broadway?

I tried to get more info on turn, but he wasn't giving anything off. Plus, I like to balance my reactions when I'm playing live. In other words, if I chose to talk during this hand and end up showing my hand, then I'm going to want to talk in most pots I'm involved in later so as to not give up anything unintentionally (if that makes sense). Because I don't usually talk in a hand, I didn't say anything in this pot until the player bet the river and I was only left with the decision to call or fold...

Doubt he shoves a flush draw this early in a major tourney unless hes loco. I think you are looking at AA or AK. You have really underreped your hand all the way through imo. Idk would he 3bet with 88 here? Doubtful. Ugh Im lost basically

Villian seems unconcerned about what ever you are holding so you have to fold. I have him on AA, KK, AK. When you flat the flop he has to put you on the possibility of AK at the very least. He's not worried about you hitting on the turn because Villian has exactly AK, AA, KK. There is no bad turn card left since it's unlikely you have less than top-top with the flop call and he has the cards that can beat him in his own hand.

When the J hits the river he knows you wouldn't CC two streets with the K on the flop holding JJ.

he had 109

lol pls explain this...I will call it off in the first orbit if I'm think I'm best, regardless of the event (not saying that's what I did in this hand)

I like your play on every street.

Now fold river.

very interesting hand with so few reads/such little info.

basically we are only beating a bluff here, i can never see him having KQ here either plus we have no idea what his pot pot pot strategy means at this point.

fold

I call

 

Originally Posted by Squintngo

Because I don't usually talk in a hand, I didn't say anything in this pot until the player bet the river and I was only left with the decision to call or fold...

what did you end up saying to the guy and how did he take it?

stone wall?

stiff?

was he shaking?

i would take this line with AA but i tend to overplay/thin vb hands when deemed necessary.

edit - hows wendy peffercorn?

 

Originally Posted by tdk

what did you end up saying to the guy and how did he take it?

stone wall?

stiff?

was he shaking?

i would take this line with AA but i tend to overplay/thin vb hands when deemed necessary.

edit - hows wendy peffercorn?

He didn't move. I started talking about his bet sizing to see if he might look up, but I got nothing.

Wendy is good. Working at the pharmacy as we speak.

I will post results later. Not sure if they matter, though...

i was simply asking if it was you in the hand against him

no worries mate

4-bet pre and go from there...