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Awkward spot with AK in the sb

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  1. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

    White Rock
    Canada

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 7:52pm)

    Both limpers are your typical loose passive Euros playing 50%ish of hands and raising 5%ish. They are calling my raise with probably 90% of their limping range. Based on this what do you think of my raise pre? Do you ever just complete? Also what do you do on the flop? I don't think really think you can bet/fold so that leaves bet/call, shove, check/fold or check/shove.

    pokerstars Game #17574717329: Tournament #88689058, $15.00+$1.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/05/20 - 19:28:35 (ET)
    Table '88689058 10' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: ritchie1961 (15090 in chips)
    Seat 2: Voodoogame (9458 in chips)
    Seat 3: toadman2005 (25452 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: 1lg_tr-tr (11055 in chips)
    Seat 5: navigare (4052 in chips)
    Seat 6: PokerBigFish (2725 in chips)
    Seat 7: JohnFR (9736 in chips)
    Seat 8: Tk1979 (4915 in chips)
    Seat 9: matkinson (8370 in chips)
    ritchie1961: posts the ante 50
    Voodoogame: posts the ante 50
    toadman2005: posts the ante 50
    1lg_tr-tr: posts the ante 50
    navigare: posts the ante 50
    PokerBigFish: posts the ante 50
    JohnFR: posts the ante 50
    Tk1979: posts the ante 50
    matkinson: posts the ante 50
    matkinson: posts small blind 200
    ritchie1961: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to matkinson [Kd Ac]
    Voodoogame: calls 400
    toadman2005: folds
    1lg_tr-tr: folds
    navigare: folds
    PokerBigFish: folds
    JohnFR: folds
    Tk1979: calls 400
    matkinson: raises 1400 to 1800
    ritchie1961: folds
    Voodoogame: calls 1400
    Tk1979: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jd 3s 2s]
    matkinson: ???
     
  2. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 7:59pm) in reply to rivverkiller

    Shove Pre. Fuck Limpers.
  3. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 8:04pm) in reply to rivverkiller

    i think case can be made for just shoving preflop, bc hand is gonna be awkward if u miss, especially based on stack sizes.

    after this flop, hand becomes tough to play. i think sometimes u can lead/fold here, in this spot i just play basically by feel. tough to really know where u are at, if u put him on such a wide calling range.

    most of the time i am prob thinking he had mid-pair or connected cards, slightly rated towards mid pair. if u adding in Ax type hands and KQ, then u prob gotta lead out. if u think u can represent bigger pair then i lead pretty big at pot and am prob forced to call a shove. if u think u aren't getting him off any pair, then prob have to check and see what he does.
     
  4. bruha47 bruha47 is offline

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 8:04pm) in reply to AFink93

    since i hate this spot i either just shove it in pre or check and then fold if u dont hit and if u do hit ur hand is disguised very good and should be able to get some action with it
  5. headnick headnick is offline

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 8:19pm) in reply to bruha47

    Never ever check AK, it's either a hand you take the blinds down with or shove and see five cards.

    Checking is weak imo
  6. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    May 20th, 2008 (5/20/2008 10:12pm) in reply to headnick

    shove
     
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