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  1. My friend has been profitable at the $2 180 on stars for a while and been offered a backing deal for the 12s. Asked me to look over the deal make sure its fair for him as he has no expierience in this. Not been backed myself so anyone who has is this a pretty standard arrangment?

    Thanks

    Edit the 60/40 split is in the players favour.

    General Deal info
    =================
    You get a $2500 roll(stop loss).
    Cut: with 60/40 make up (mu)
    Profit split: as soon as PB is surpassed (see BR rules)
    Duration: min 1 month, can’t end while still in mu
    BR: You are provided with a daily Bankroll for your schedule. Your BR will be reset according to BR rules (see section BR rules) at the end of each day.
    Site: pokerstars
    Education: [spam deleted -- do not mention/plug other sites here] monthly group coachings, personalized coaching
    Software: Current software (added to MU for new horses)
    Deal time horizon
    =================
    min 1 month
    Stakee quitting:
    You are not allowed to quit while you have make up.
    You can leave the deal if you and your backer find a deal on the left over make up.
    Backer quitting:
    Should the backer have to quit the current deal, the backer has to inform the stakee one week in advance. The backer will help you finding a solution for your current situation.
    Changing backer:
    You are not allowed to change backer without having the other backer buying your make up.
    Games
    =====
    Important:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |No other games on any other site allowed at any point in time during the staking without permission.|
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Each stakee will be assigned games he can play without notifying the backer. We will refer to these games as general games (GG).
    Occasinally the stakee is allowed to take shots at higher games (HG). The stakee must request permission to play those.
    Your games:
    GG: $12, 7.70, 3r 180 mans
    HG: $36 180 mans after $3500 profit
    Next step: $100 daily mtt schedule + $300 on Sunday after $5000 profit

    Multitabling
    ============
    The backer limits the maximum amount of tables the stakee can play. This number will be adjusted over time.
    Max Tables: 20
    BR rules
    ========
    Important:
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    |Only Staking money is in your account, no private money at any point in time.|
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You are provided with a daily bankroll (DB).
    If you drop below the minimum bankroll (MB) threshold, your BR will be refilled up to DB.
    If your bankroll exceeds profit bankroll (PB) you transfer BR - DB (everything but your daily bankroll) to the backer. He will then calculate your profits and share them with you.
    If your BR drops below stop loss (SL) inform the backer immediately and quit until you hear back from him.
    The backer will keep track of your current make up and inform you accordingly.
    Remark:
    1) As long as your BR is within PB and MB there is no money withdrawn or transferred.
    Your thresholds:
    PB: $600
    DB: $500
    MB: $400
    SL: $0
    Share winnings
    ==============
    Winnings are shared at 60/40 w/ mu
    Any bonus or promotion does not count as winning (FPP, Reloads, Rake Back, Rake Race, VIP Freeroll, etc)
    The profits are transferred to the backer (both cuts) at the end of a playing day according to BR rules. The backer returns the players profits to an account the stakee is not playing on by the next day.
    To start splitting the stakee has to win one DB and return the stakers money. At the end of the staking the DB is profits and will be split after deducting make up.
    Cashout
    =======
    Most sites don't allow cashouts without playing (Stakees winnings are on an account he doenst play). The backer will help the stakee transfer his winnings back to the site he is currently playing on. He must cash out the day he gets the money transfered.
    Best Case plan
    ===============
    In this section a best case plan is described.
    Win $5000 => promotion to 65/35
    Win $10,000 => promotion to 70/30
    Worst Case plan
    ===============
    In this section a worst case plan is described.
    Lose $2500 => Done with staking (holds just for the beginning)
    Games disobedience
    ==================
    Should the stakee not stick to the game rules he will be warned once by email.
    Should the stakee not obey the game rules a second time, the agreement will be cancelled. The BR will be split according to share winnings.
    In case of games disobedience the stakee has 1 month to pay back any damage caused. The backer will pause the daily transfers till damage is fixed.
    Should the staking have to be terminated due to games disobedience the full MU has to be payed back at 100% rate.
    Reports
    =======
    The stakee has to inform the staker DAILY! about his BR by email [email address deleted -- read forum rules] after his session. This is very important and key to a successful stakee-backer relationship.
    Example:
    PS BR: 500
    sent: 200
    Backers account information
    ===========================
    Ps: ***************
    City: ************
    Ft: *******
    City: ***
    Avatar: *****
    Information from player
    =======================
    Full Name:
    Address:
    Moblie Phone Number:
    Landline Number:
    Facebook info:
    ps fpp balance:
    Playing Account:
    Transfer info:
    Winnings Account:
    Transfer info:
    Edited By: u shove i call Aug 31st, 2010 at 10:52 AM
  2. If he can't play these games himself, then seems more than fair especially considering the 60/40 seems to be in his direction.. If he has the bankroll to do this himself, don't see why he would want a stake..
  3. seems pretty legit... as WJ said if hes got the BR to do it himself Im not sure why he would want to have the backing, except maybe the 1 on 1 coachin, and potential to be backed for larger games if he does well...
  4. Only 20 tables? Why so limiting?
  5. Pretty sophisticated, little room for error. Looks like a fair deal to me.

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