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  1. rmull rmull is offline

    Canada

    Posts: 337
    Joined: Jul 08

    Nov 13th, 2008 (11/13/2008 6:11am)

    First two hands at new tables so no reads. would have shuved on second hand if no smooth call. good laydowns or shuve both? any input appreciated, thanks.

    pokerstars Game #21999466197: Tournament #119387004, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/11/13 7:05:38 ET
    Table '119387004 38' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: pierrenl (3655 in chips)
    Seat 2: yalibaba (3795 in chips)
    Seat 3: pippikeil (15470 in chips)
    Seat 4: scooter743 (16765 in chips)
    Seat 5: Dougie Fresh (8700 in chips)
    Seat 6: rmullen (3540 in chips)
    Seat 7: Isabel28 (42208 in chips)
    Seat 8: rigani (12343 in chips)
    Seat 9: missnic27 (12755 in chips)
    pierrenl: posts the ante 25
    yalibaba: posts the ante 25
    pippikeil: posts the ante 25
    scooter743: posts the ante 25
    Dougie Fresh: posts the ante 25
    rmullen: posts the ante 25
    Isabel28: posts the ante 25
    rigani: posts the ante 25
    missnic27: posts the ante 25
    Dougie Fresh: posts small blind 150
    rmullen: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to rmullen [As 9h]
    Isabel28: folds
    rigani: folds
    missnic27: folds
    pierrenl: raises 600 to 900
    yalibaba: folds
    pippikeil: folds
    scooter743: folds
    Dougie Fresh: folds
    rmullen: folds
    Uncalled bet (600) returned to pierrenl
    pierrenl collected 975 from pot
    pierrenl: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 975 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: pierrenl collected (975)
    Seat 2: yalibaba folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: pippikeil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: scooter743 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Dougie Fresh (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: rmullen (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Isabel28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: rigani folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: missnic27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    PokerStars Game #21999473874: Tournament #119387004, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/11/13 7:06:19 ET
    Table '119387004 38' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: pierrenl (4305 in chips)
    Seat 2: yalibaba (3770 in chips)
    Seat 3: pippikeil (15445 in chips)
    Seat 4: scooter743 (16740 in chips)
    Seat 5: Dougie Fresh (8525 in chips)
    Seat 6: rmullen (3215 in chips)
    Seat 7: Isabel28 (42183 in chips)
    Seat 8: rigani (12318 in chips)
    Seat 9: missnic27 (12730 in chips)
    pierrenl: posts the ante 25
    yalibaba: posts the ante 25
    pippikeil: posts the ante 25
    scooter743: posts the ante 25
    Dougie Fresh: posts the ante 25
    rmullen: posts the ante 25
    Isabel28: posts the ante 25
    rigani: posts the ante 25
    missnic27: posts the ante 25
    rmullen: posts small blind 150
    Isabel28: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to rmullen [Js Ah]
    rigani: folds
    missnic27: raises 750 to 1050
    pierrenl: folds
    yalibaba: calls 1050
    pippikeil: folds
    scooter743: folds
    Dougie Fresh: folds
    rmullen: folds
    Isabel28: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 5h 5s]
    missnic27: bets 3000
    yalibaba: folds
    Uncalled bet (3000) returned to missnic27
    missnic27 collected 2775 from pot
    missnic27: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2775 | Rake 0
    Board [As 5h 5s]
    Seat 1: pierrenl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: yalibaba folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: pippikeil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: scooter743 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Dougie Fresh (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: rmullen (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Isabel28 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: rigani folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: missnic27 collected (2775)
     
  2. peterswellman peterswellman is offline

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    Posts: 68
    Joined: Feb 08

    Nov 13th, 2008 (11/13/2008 6:31am) in reply to rmull

    In those situation sit's either ship or fold. You're putting in around a third of your stack in both cases with a flat call. With this hands you want to be the one opening the pot rather than just calling or re-raising imo. I fold both but get active pretty soon.
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