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Bad play or bad call?

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  1. t0mb0 t0mb0 is offline

    Folsom, CA
    United States

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    Dec 21st, 2005 (12/21/2005 10:46am)

    pokerstars Game #3394737340: Tournament #16685738, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII
    (1000/2000) - 2005/12/21 - 11:21:51 (ET)
    Table '16685738 31' Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: ONEPOT (32328 in chips)
    Seat 2: OVVELL (17675 in chips)
    Seat 3: t0mB0 (89827 in chips)
    Seat 4: J0EBL0GGS (129573 in chips)
    Seat 5: arturd2 (69944 in chips)
    Seat 6: TomR_37 (47653 in chips)
    Seat 7: pfnm (20805 in chips)
    Seat 8: FlourTime (26451 in chips)
    ONEPOT: posts the ante 100
    OVVELL: posts the ante 100
    t0mB0: posts the ante 100
    J0EBL0GGS: posts the ante 100
    arturd2: posts the ante 100
    TomR_37: posts the ante 100
    pfnm: posts the ante 100
    FlourTime: posts the ante 100
    t0mB0: posts small blind 1000
    J0EBL0GGS: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to t0mB0 [Qh Ah]
    arturd2: folds
    TomR_37: folds
    pfnm: folds
    FlourTime: raises 6000 to 8000
    ONEPOT: folds
    OVVELL: folds
    t0mB0: raises 81727 to 89727 and is all-in
    J0EBL0GGS: raises 39746 to 129473 and is all-in
    FlourTime: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Td 2s 3c]
    *** TURN *** [Td 2s 3c] [8d]
    *** RIVER *** [Td 2s 3c 8d] [9d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    t0mB0: shows [Qh Ah] (high card Ace)
    J0EBL0GGS: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
    J0EBL0GGS collected 188254 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 188254 | Rake 0
    Board [Td 2s 3c 8d 9d]
    Seat 1: ONEPOT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: OVVELL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: t0mB0 (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 4: J0EBL0GGS (big blind) showed [Js Jc] and won (188254) with a pair of
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

    Rosemount, MN
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    Dec 21st, 2005 (12/21/2005 11:08am) in reply to t0mb0

    Eh, not the greatest call every on Joe's part...but why push? You got a little unlucky that the BB woke up with a hand as well, but you've got a big stack to start with. I would have re-raised to 20K or so, which would leave you with plenty of chips if you have to fold (which would have been relatively easy to do if Joe comes back over the top pre-flop, or you can check/fold when the flop comes as raggedy as it did).
     
  3. sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline

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    Dec 22nd, 2005 (12/22/2005 4:56am) in reply to grapsfan

    Yeah, like graps said. A 20k raise gives you the same amount of information for a much cheaper price. Especially being 2nd in chips making that move against the only guy who can bust you is just... not good.
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