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    I got this via certified mail from my bank:

    Dear Client:

    The Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) requires [name of my bank] to have a thorough understanding of our customers and their businesses. In response to this obligation, [name of my bank] has developed a list of account servicing questions to help us better understand our clients and their banking needs. These questions were not asked at the time of account opening.

    Please contact your Relationship Manager, [his name], at [his phone number] within 10 calendar days of receipt of this letter or you may contact me directly at [her phone number] to schedule a phone interview.

    Please note that your failure to respond to our request for the interview within twenty one (21) calendar days from the date of this letter will result in a restriction on your ATM/Debit Card. In addition, failure to respond to our request for the interview within thirty (30) calendar days from the date of this letter may result in your accounts being closed.

    We look forward to hearing from you.

    Sincerely,

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    Other information:
    - I have used accounts at this bank to accept premium bankwires, and regular bankwires from FTP, and checks.
    - I have used accounts at this bank to accept wire transfers from pokerstars, and checks.
    - I pay my taxes, in full.
    - Despite the above, I would not like the displeasure/aggravation/hassle of being audited, and this is what I am concerned about more than anything.
    - I have accounts at another bank and I don't need the money immediately.
    - It would not be a big deal for me to change banks.

    What I need to know

    Most importantly - What are they going to ask me?

    Edit: I know what I'll be asked now.


    Next most importantly - Is the money I have in my accounts in jeopardy?

    Edit: I know that the money is not in jeopardy.

    Even though my questions have been answered, I's still like to hear especially from anyone who works in a bank, has a relative who works in a bank, or especially from anyone who has been thru or conducted one of these interviews before.

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    there gonna ask u alot of questions about money..thats it..so idk if u should lie or not..i want to say if u dont ur done..gotta get a new bank...

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    maybe you should do some research on the Bank Secrecy Act to see what questions/regulations are in place. if online gamling is mentioned in the bill maybe you should consider closing your bank account before the deadline

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

    ^^

    Basically they see suspicious activity on my account, most likely a bevy of transactions coming in from poker sites.

    The Act asks financial institutions to assist US government agencies in the detection of money laundering.
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    just answer the questions. they cant take your money - maybe close your account but who cares. closing your account before this interview is probably a bad idea - your just asking for more questioning

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    Quote Originally Posted by z06fanatic View Post
    just answer the questions. they cant take your money - maybe close your account but who cares.
    If I have to have my accounts closed, that's okay. My biggest concern is that they will report something that will result in me getting audited. I pay my taxes fully, but this is one thing I do not want to deal with.
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    I don't work at a bank(or live in the US but here goes)

    It appears that the BSA is in place to trying and protect against tax evasion and money laundering (listed as criminal activities in the charter i found). If you are paying your taxes then the only issue you might have is what you are going to tell the bank you actually do for a living.

    If you tell them you are a professional poker player/gambler they may ask you about online poker, but i still fail to see why some US banks are no longer accepting funds from online gambling websites/businesses as it really doesn't affect them that much , unless the understanding of the bank is that inline poker is illegal and they fear being chased by the powers that be.

    You could tell them you run a consulting business or do investments but you will probably need another off shore account to have your winning paid into and then transferred to you US account. The offshore would need to have a good reputation in the eyes of the US bank to avoid further questions.

    One way you could find out more is to go to another bank and tell them you want to open an account, explain your actual situation and see if they have any issue with holding your funds after being told the whole situation before they get your $$

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    Funny that you posted this and I had a similar thing happen to me at my bank just this morning. I went in to make a cash deposit into my checking account and as I'm standing in t line, the bank manager who I've known personally for many years asked if she could have a word with me after I make my deposit.

    So after making the deposit I went into her office and she basically told me that I need to fill out a form explaining where the past bank wire transfers came from. Meaning the bank wanted to know how I obtained this money. She didn't tell me I had to fill out the form but I told her that I got the money from online work that I do.

    Problem is however that my friend the bank manager knows that I deposit funds from online poker since she has helped me in the past when Stars checks had bounced. I started to feel like I was in a police interrogation so I stood up and told her that if they didn't want my business I would gladly go across the street,,,,today.

    In the end she told me she would write down that it was from online work and that I wouldn't be hassled again. I hope she's right but I have a feeling things are about to get out of hand with this banking bs.

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    I have a sofa you can all sleep on in the UK if you want to come over to the land of the free....

    Seriously, why does the US govt. care about gambling so much?

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    I deposited a check last Monday, and for the first time in the 2 yrs ive been playing I was questioned about where the check was coming from. She asked where this check came from, I said work. She said "work?" i say yes. she says do they have direct deposit? I say idk I dont think so. She kinda looked at me and then turned around and deposited the check, but its one of those things where they know that im probably lying they just cant prove it yet. I guess the real test is gonna be in December...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkFSU1 View Post
    I deposited a check last Monday, and for the first time in the 2 yrs ive been playing I was questioned about where the check was coming from. She asked where this check came from, I said work. She said "work?" i say yes. she says do they have direct deposit? I say idk I dont think so. She kinda looked at me and then turned around and deposited the check, but its one of those things where they know that im probably lying they just cant prove it yet. I guess the real test is gonna be in December...
    The real test imo will be 2-3 months after December if they're still doing this.
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    hey jennifear,

    i had to go through this as well b/c i too did bankwires etc. through my bank and they were kind of assholes about it to me saying that if i did it again they would close my account and that they would be watching me closely and shit. they did ask me where my money came from but since i cashed it out when i won my ME seat through tilt i said that but they still said they don't condone online or any sort of gambling so i was stuck on what to really say. they just said not to let it happen again and i haven't gotten questioned about it since and this was a few months ago so... hope this helps you though

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    Did you file a Form TD F 90-22.1 (Foreign Bank Account Reporting)? You are required to file one of these if at any point during the year you had an interest in a foreign bank account with a balance that exceeds $10,000.

    Offshore poker accounts included.

    So if they see money coming in from Pokerstars or Full Tilt they will know you have a foreign bank account. If you transferred thousands of dollars from those accounts to your regular amount they know you probably had a balance exceeding $10,000. They will tell the I.R.S. who will then check whether you paid any taxes on foreign income.

    I am really lucky that, even though i live in the US, I still have bank accounts and credit cards in The Netherlands and the United Kingdom that I use to deposit from/to. They do not give me any problems when I am depositing.

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    Remember I told you guys to have at least two bank accounts? Listen next time. You have your next account ready to go before these things even come up. Hell, have ten accounts.

    But, to answer Jennifear's main concern: the bank is more worried about their own ass (compliance) than your ass. If you have done anything directly illegal (you haven't), then you would be fine if you were to be audited. You have paid your taxes on the reported earnings.

    When my bank started cracking down, I simply took out all but a few dollars, and didn't even answer their questions. I went to another bank.

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    I'm surprised reading these responses. I guess most people don't use the phrase, "none of your fucking business" as often as I do.

    This is exactly the problem with our tax code, and legal system in general. There are so many laws and regulations you can never be sure if your in compliance. And that is how they want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTiger View Post

    When my bank started cracking down, I simply took out all but a few dollars, and didn't even answer their questions. I went to another bank.
    What happened to that account and the last few dollars?

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    Hope everything works out for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m4tth3w1 View Post
    What happened to that account and the last few dollars?
    Still open, like it's been for 21 years. They didn't prove I did anything wrong, so they can't do anything. It's a credit union, so I am a part owner.

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    well it's difficult to say none of ur fucking business when they're threatning to close ur account w/ thousands of dollars in it i guess i could've handled it differently but was just put on the spot i didnt have time to think like she does i was just called and asked instantly about it was awkward

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    the real answer here though, the long term vision, would not be to keep switching banks and running away. the real answer would be to stand up and say, yes, i play online poker and yes, i pay my taxes in full, and yes I'M FUCKING SICK OF RUNNING FROM YOU (us govt). The real answer involves poker becoming respected and legit.
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    Well, the Patrick Henry part of it can go on, too, while I keep up with my banco teleporto moves.

    And, look to the very sites you are playing on. They do the SAME THING: utilize a two-pronged approach (a) lobby, negotiate, etc., and (b) keep on switching financial institutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aad View Post
    Did you file a Form TD F 90-22.1 (Foreign Bank Account Reporting)? You are required to file one of these if at any point during the year you had an interest in a foreign bank account with a balance that exceeds $10,000.

    Offshore poker accounts included.

    So if they see money coming in from Pokerstars or Full Tilt they will know you have a foreign bank account. If you transferred thousands of dollars from those accounts to your regular amount they know you probably had a balance exceeding $10,000. They will tell the I.R.S. who will then check whether you paid any taxes on foreign income.

    I am really lucky that, even though i live in the US, I still have bank accounts and credit cards in The Netherlands and the United Kingdom that I use to deposit from/to. They do not give me any problems when I am depositing.
    You're supposed to report this accounts also??
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    Damn, this sucks. I may go ahead and switch accounts soon as a pre-emptive strike here, I have been fortunate enough to have a lot of bank wires over the past few months.

    On another note, I am going to try and cash my first FTP check at Walmart today. Wish me luck!

    For Jennifear: I don't really think you have anything to worry about. Just be honest with them and tell them where it's coming from and there is nothing illegal about it. I would just tell them this and say, "This is what I do for a living, if you see it as unacceptable I will gladly find another bank who accepts what I do.". As far as an audit goes, I really don't think this red flags you in any way, but if it does then you are already screwed, the interview answers won't affect this one way or another. So I wouldn't think to yourself about how to best answer questions to avoid an audit, if that's the case it's too late in my opinion!

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    Beware of a scam. I wouldn't tell them any information over the phone.

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    I talked to my mom today who works at a huge bank in the US, is branch manager and VP, she says that its not necessarily about online poker or online gambling, but that the banks lately have been receiving a ton of fraudulent foreign checks and that alot of ppl are also making big scams through wire transfers and its more about the bank wanting to know what youre doing then online gambling. not sure if that means a thing but thats what I was told...

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    I know theses poker sites have hundreds of thousands of accounts, but as much trouble as everyone is having cashing checks and dealing with the reliability of the processors I don't understand why the sites don't use another withdrawal option.

    Such as limiting withdrawals to one a month and sending a money order or check directly from the bank where the sites have their money at. This banking fiasco when it comes to online poker funds is ridiculous and one time where advanced technology isn't an advantage. That's one good thing about being older. I remember when receiving a check that was personally made out was good enough and the only thing you had to worry about if it was from someone you didn't actually know was if it would bounce instead of where it came from.

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    I haven't had any problems with my banks but I live 8 miles from the MExican border so I could open an account there. Having said having my $$ in pe$o$ doesn't excite me.

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