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  1. hattrick8810 hattrick8810 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:13pm)

    Pretty much the same thing that happened to Sooners. I have been backed by JJ for over a year now. Not many people knew about it. Anyway, i had my account frozen yesterday and today I got the email saying it is permanently closed since I was "guilty by association". I have done nothing wrong besides transferring money with the wrong people. I have never multi-accounted. JJ has never ghosted or taken over anything for me. I think it is an unfair decision but it is a decision i will have to live with. I knew what the risks were so it is ultimately my fault.

    Just wanted to let everyone know you won't be seeing TheTownhouse at the tables anymore.
     
  2. sandler1860 sandler1860 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:15pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    sorry man
     
  3. TMLMS13 TMLMS13 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:15pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    they are trying to take all the sharks out of the ME, they obv want an amatuer to win. see elky vs charder
  4. TaKeN_pOiNtS TaKeN_pOiNtS is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:21pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    sucks
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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:26pm) in reply to TaKeN_pOiNtS

    tgasdfasdfsaefasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasd
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  6. romy99 romy99 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:27pm) in reply to TaKeN_pOiNtS

    good, gl on ur new account.
     
  7. iLLNuGWichee iLLNuGWichee is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 5:30pm) in reply to romy99

    sigh, that sucks hatty. Just start crushing live imo
     
  8. RichardHurtz RichardHurtz is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 6:30pm) in reply to hattrick8810

     
    Originally Posted by hattrick8810 View Post

    I think it is an unfair decision

     
    Originally Posted by hattrick8810 View Post

    I knew what the risks were so it is ultimately my fault.

     
    Originally Posted by hattrick8810 View Post

    closed since I was "guilty by association". I have done nothing wrong besides transferring money with the wrong people.

    Its unfair, but you knew the risks and its your fault? Seriously, who the hell are you people?

    You should be more careful when you choose who you associate with.
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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 7:26pm) in reply to romy99

     
    Originally Posted by romy99 View Post


    good, gl on ur new account.

    hes not gonna open a new account cuz all the money will be seized by pokerstars.
  10. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 7:37pm) in reply to Gforce786

     
    Originally Posted by Gforce786 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by romy99 View Post


    good, gl on ur new account.

    hes not gonna open a new account cuz all the money will be seized by pokerstars.

    lol.... good one (I'll just assume youre joking)
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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 9:28pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    damn man
  12. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 10:03pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    sigh!
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  13. cajundaddy1 cajundaddy1 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 10:55pm) in reply to Mr_BigQueso

    Care to say what account you were receiving funds from? Thank you.

    Cajun sends
     
  14. hattrick8810 hattrick8810 is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 11:02pm) in reply to cajundaddy1

    i received funds mostly from FishOnTilt and some from HitUr2outer and APerfectGent
     
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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 11:38pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    I think it is unfair personally.
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  16. Jaxsonguy Jaxsonguy is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 11:57pm) in reply to apestyles

    sigh......
    what the helllz!
     
  17. mordan mordan is online now

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    Sep 21st, 2008 (9/21/2008 11:59pm) in reply to apestyles

     
    Originally Posted by apestyles View Post

    I think it is unfair personally.

     
  18. allinblind allinblind is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 12:35am) in reply to mordan

    :-/ ul gg...
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 12:41am) in reply to allinblind

    I personally think it is unfair as well.. but from their point of view you are participating in a scheme that puts the integrity of their site in danger, what you did could also be a form of money laundering as well.
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 1:06am) in reply to rock3656

     
    Originally Posted by rock3656 View Post

    I personally think it is unfair as well.. but from their point of view you are participating in a scheme that puts the integrity of their site in danger, what you did could also be a form of money laundering as well.

    It's money laundering and conspiracy. Serious crimes in the real world.
     
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 1:51am) in reply to hattrick8810

    how is it unfair???
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 1:54am) in reply to Ozzie

    Its unfair because hes a good player and they like him. And maybe he didnt have anything directly to do with what JJ was doing. But no one really knows the full scope of what goes on. Good Luck in the future.
  23. Ozzie Ozzie is online now

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 2:21am) in reply to AFink93

     
    Originally Posted by AFink93 View Post


    Its unfair because hes a good player and they like him. And maybe he didnt have anything directly to do with what JJ was doing. But no one really knows the full scope of what goes on. Good Luck in the future.

    is that a serious response?
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 3:37am) in reply to rock3656

     
    Originally Posted by rock3656 View Post

    I personally think it is unfair as well.. but from their point of view you are participating in a scheme that puts the integrity of their site in danger, what you did could also be a form of money laundering as well.

    ...aka syndicate, rackateering, etc. gg JJ and his crew of thugs.
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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 3:52am) in reply to hattrick8810

    Dropping like flies I see.

    Who's next?
  26. N 82 50 24 N 82 50 24 is offline herp derp derp

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 3:58am) in reply to Curtass

    Seems like it's unfair but also necessary. PokerStars realized that it was going to be hard to stop JJ, so I think doing what they're doing right now is basically making an example of people so, in the future, it will be much more difficult for people to bring themselves to associate with JJ if he should try to recruit more stakees. Now that they know their PokerStars account is in jeopardy for life, they will take it more seriously and be much more likely to turn the staking offer down. In addition, people will be less likely to help JJ fund accounts because they know that when JJ's new attempt gets caught, they're going down with him. So, in summary, I'm sure PokerStars wishes it was possible to keep players like Chris on the site, but they don't feel like it can be done within their overall objective of getting rid of JJ. And since Chris affiliated with JJ and never reported what he obviously knew to be a violation of Stars' policies (ie, a banned player using new accounts), they have enough justification to ban for life.

    Sad day...
     
  27. MarkFSU1 MarkFSU1 is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 4:12am) in reply to N 82 50 24

     
    Originally Posted by N 82 50 24 View Post

    Seems like it's unfair but also necessary. PokerStars realized that it was going to be hard to stop JJ, so I think doing what they're doing right now is basically making an example of people so, in the future, it will be much more difficult for people to bring themselves to associate with JJ if he should try to recruit more stakees. Now that they know their PokerStars account is in jeopardy for life, they will take it more seriously and be much more likely to turn the staking offer down. In addition, people will be less likely to help JJ fund accounts because they know that when JJ's new attempt gets caught, they're going down with him. So, in summary, I'm sure PokerStars wishes it was possible to keep players like Chris on the site, but they don't feel like it can be done within their overall objective of getting rid of JJ. And since Chris affiliated with JJ and never reported what he obviously knew to be a violation of Stars' policies (ie, a banned player using new accounts), they have enough justification to ban for life.

    Sad day...

    agree with what you said, but I believe it also making an example of JJ for anybody else who may be out there now that is doing what he was doing or is thinking about doing what he was doing. "innocent" people who may be helping an MAer that are reading this stuff and may be helping somebody currently are going to have to really think about their decision now that theyre kind of screwing themselves once the MAer gets caught.
     
  28. mrdrevil2u mrdrevil2u is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 2:59pm) in reply to RichardHurtz

    I second! Cheers.
  29. Ace_upmy_Slv 73 Ace_upmy_Slv 73 is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 3:23pm) in reply to hattrick8810

    It needs to be done, plain and simple. There is really no argument you can make in favor of these associated players. I applaud Stars for having a zero tolerance policy with ALL players associated with this.
     
  30. kevin6651 kevin6651 is offline

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    Sep 22nd, 2008 (9/22/2008 3:37pm) in reply to Ace_upmy_Slv 73

    I have to agree with Ace here. On the front page of PD there are a few responses from our elected officials that repeatedly state online poker has no safeguards against crime. I'm not saying what hatty or even JJ was doing was criminal, but think about it - if the online poker community can't even police multiaccounting, what hope do we have of convincing the elected that some terrorist can't open up a poker account and get "staked"??

    And although I do believe hatty had not had any of his tournies taken over or ghosted by JJ, I'm positive he knew JJ was playing again on the site. And by receiving or sending funds to a player known to be banned, you subject yourself to ban. In my mind it's just that simple.
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