This from 2+2 by gobboboy
"Villain in the hand is JohnnyBax. He and I have a bit of history playing together, I think he respects my play but at the same time is frustrated that I have come out on top in most of our little spats. I view him as obviously a good player but honestly I think he has a bit of tourney donk-itis (AKA more prone to call with stronger hands even when he believes he is beat)."
I guess Bax should get that case of donk-itis checked out. One of the best players (if not the best) out there has this condition I would hate to figure out what I have :(
obv this is sarcasm and I can't see Bax as having form of this ailment but then again I'm not a doctor and not gobboboy.
I am hoping someone could tell me how I miplayed this hand. I thought I played it rather well. Looks to me that Gobbo played it incorrectly, as he could have had my entire stack, but what do I know?
pokerstars Game #5920228046: Tournament #29830155, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/08/14 - 21:17:35 (ET)
Table '29830155 9' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (10697 in chips)
Seat 2: tobago_nl (5545 in chips)
Seat 3: JohnnyBax (13470 in chips)
Seat 4: J9SUITED (3970 in chips)
Seat 5: alski21 (1975 in chips)
Seat 6: gobboboy (24116 in chips)
Seat 7: BamaEd (21305 in chips)
Seat 8: Kim Jong II (10300 in chips)
jwvdcw: posts the ante 25
tobago_nl: posts the ante 25
JohnnyBax: posts the ante 25
J9SUITED: posts the ante 25
alski21: posts the ante 25
gobboboy: posts the ante 25
BamaEd: posts the ante 25
Kim Jong II: posts the ante 25
JohnnyBax: posts small blind 100
J9SUITED: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JohnnyBax [As Jh]
gobboboy: raises 400 to 600
Kim Jong II: folds
JohnnyBax: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [9s Js Ah]
JohnnyBax: bets 600
gobboboy: calls 600
*** TURN *** [9s Js Ah] [6s]
e22park is connected
JohnnyBax: bets 1200
gobboboy: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [9s Js Ah 6s] [Tc]
JohnnyBax: bets 2400
gobboboy: raises 2400 to 4800
JohnnyBax said, "u dance?"
gobboboy said, "I'll dance, sure."
JohnnyBax: calls 2400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gobboboy: shows [5s 7s] (a flush, Jack high)
JohnnyBax: mucks hand
JohnnyBax said, "rgwerhopj36uy54kl7"
gobboboy collected 14800 from pot
wow this "johnnybax" really is a donkey. Maybe he should just quit poker
Responding to my own post....Bax pwns and that is all.
Sorry to stir up a shitstorm, I just really respect Bax and his game and saw the post on 2+2 and thought it was kind of foolish to say that of Bax. I'm like #100000 in ranking (yes Adam and Cal ranked me on a special list) and Bax is obv #1.
don't worry about it, I don't think anybody's mad ryan. Bax PWNS and this was interesting to see that gobboboy thinks that bax is a donk for making that call. F minraises and f people who think they're a lot better than they are. Bax is no. 1, ryan is 100000, and I am 100001.
It is crazy.
I looked down and thought I would see a horrible play, and saw nothing of the sort.
Gobboboy has done better, and Bax has done worse. This one was uneventful.
I think we should remember here that gobboboy didn't really say anything bad about Johnnybax.
I view him as obviously a good player but honestly I think he has a bit of tourney donk-itis (AKA more prone to call with stronger hands even when he believes he is beat).
It's just an observation. Take it easy on the guy.
How about u SMD Gigawatts - nobody wants you here in PD get back to OT where you belong and stop upsetting the PD'ers!
2+2 serves 2 functions for poker players.
1) It is a great resource for poker information and many poker players (mostly as a function of ego) use it to express original ideas regarding poker.
2) It is also a place for poker players that are socially inept to brag about how they got revenge on the cool kids.
Any merit to checking the turn to him and playing WAWB from there? A big part of gobbo's range is floating you on the flop - the turn brought a card he can represent, checking allows him to bluff off to you the majority of the time that he's actually behind and may save you some chips when he's ahead.
i am guessing here: gobboboy has a magic the gathering and/or Dungeons and dragons and/or backgammon background?
I escaped, but hit their best forum = SportsBetting
2+2 = forums for people that are good at (or want to be good at) poker
P5s = forums for people that are good at (or want to be good at) sweating people that are good at poker
you guys need to get off gobbo's jock. he posted a strategy hand (pronounced strt-j -- thats when people discuss the correct way to play a hand -- lol math dorks!) where one of the relevant reads was that johnnybax, while "obviously a strong player," liked to call down with strong hands even when he knew he was beat. OMG THE NERVE! no one should be offended here, except for gobboboy, who now has to deal with a bunch of ad hominem attacks from teenage professional railbirds.
also the sentiment that because johnnybax played his hand correctly/well, gobboboy's point is moot/incorrect is obviously wrong. while gobboboy may in fact be incorrect, this is one hand, and proves nothing.
I love how people try to take the inconsequential results of one hand and make a broad generalization about a player, especially when it is transparent that their only agenda is the hope that by lowering the perception of another they are thereby raising the image of themselves...
Thats a great point br.
The reason why I and I think a lot of others don't like 2+2 is whilst the hand discussions and strategy talk are far more in depth than you *generally* see here, in reality a lot of it isn't strategy discussion at all it is ego massage and one-upmanship from a bunch of people who validate their existence by their poker ability.
Gobboboy's post is a great example of this. There is no real in depth strategy to be discussed here, it is a fairly standard hand and was posted just so gobbo could say he got the best of Bax in this one hand.
A lot nicer than I would have been about it.
2+2ers that aren't good want things to be black and white. When someone comes in to challenge what is right or wrong they are typically not welcomed and many high profile players leave 2+2 because of the negative gnomes that proliferate there. When you can find someone that actually contributes something good you better PM them because they will likely be chased away by people who hate life.
A PocketFiver will typically stay a pocketfiver because this forum is about building people up not tearing them down.
One reason why I "defected"----^
Since I am not a Poker God, I don't think they noticed.
lol, maybe one day WacoKidd can be a good poker player. If you are going to come on here and make judgements about people at least check the scoreboard.
one does not question a pro! this dude Bax is an awsome player and a human who makes small mistakes, comparing to the huge mistakes that newbies make....that said, any threads containing the names of pros or top ranked players with straight up garbage is a waste of memory and space on a hard drive. They are obviously very sucessful at this game with results that only we could wish upon. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
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