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  1. cubbies4life cubbies4life is offline

    Carbondale, IL
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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:34pm)

    Azkin had been playing fairly weaktight. min raise from sb usually mean extreme strength or extreme weakness in my opinion so i don't know what to do here. any help is appreciated. results in white at end of post...dont cheat and read it before responding

    Seat 3: MAT14S (4046 in chips)
    Seat 5: Baehrchen25 (2333 in chips)
    Seat 7: Azkin (2692 in chips)
    Seat 8: cubbies4life (4429 in chips)
    Azkin: posts small blind 100
    cubbies4life: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cubbies4life [Jd 9d]
    MAT14S: folds
    Baehrchen25: folds
    Azkin: raises 200 to 400
    cubbies4life: calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [Js 7h 4s]
    Azkin: bets 800
    cubbies4life: <span>raises 3229 to 4029 and is all-in</span>
    <span>Azkin: calls 1492 and is all-in</span>
    <span>*** TURN *** [Js 7h 4s] [5d]</span>
    <span>*** RIVER *** [Js 7h 4s 5d] [9h]</span>
    <span>*** SHOW DOWN ***</span>
    <span>Azkin: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)</span>
    <span>cubbies4life: shows [Jd 9d] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)</span>
    <span>cubbies4life collected 5384 from pot</span>
    <span>*** SUMMARY ***</span>
    <span>Total pot 5384 | Rake 0 </span>
    <span>Board [Js 7h 4s 5d 9h]</span>
    <span>Seat 3: MAT14S folded before Flop (didn't bet)</span>
    <span>Seat 5: Baehrchen25 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)</span>
    <span>Seat 7: Azkin (small blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens</span>
    <span>Seat 8: cubbies4life (big blind) showed [Jd 9d] and won (5384) with two pair, Jacks and Nines</span>
  2. Goal4Ziggy Goal4Ziggy is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:41pm) in reply to cubbies4life

    fold, this is just too marginal you are first in chips and there is no need to lose half your chips with top pair no kicker. You said he is weak tight, so his lead on the flop prob means he has some sort of hand. Calling is not an option here either and if you shove, I think it's just a guessing game you shouldn't be playing especially with the chiplead at 100/200 no ante.
  3. MaitreD MaitreD is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:43pm) in reply to cubbies4life

    No real winners here. I am not crazy about the PF call, even though I make it myself. And I think the right play is to lay this down, although he could easily be betting with a wired pair you beat, or even be min. raising with AK thinking it is a value bet. I would say that you need to get away from this more times than you should play it, even though both may work at times. Fold FTW and preserve your chip lead.
  4. Largadon Largadon is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:47pm) in reply to Goal4Ziggy

    I play both PF and the flop the same way.
  5. rivverkiller rivverkiller is online now

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:50pm) in reply to MaitreD

    In a SNG I fold preflop.
     
  6. cubbies4life cubbies4life is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:51pm) in reply to Goal4Ziggy

    i have to agrre with you...after the hand played out i immediately looked back at the hand and realized that i had no info. good answer and thanks for the input
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  7. Phi Phi is offline aka tennisee

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 5:52pm) in reply to cubbies4life

    I probably would have shoved Pre, but postflop its a definite fold, find a better spot
  8. Xeno85 Xeno85 is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 6:21pm) in reply to cubbies4life

    I'd either try a resteal and push or fold. No calling pre IMO. If you do resteal, you can't really make a raise that you can then fold to a reshove, so you'd have to push, and depending on the player I wouldn't like doing it w/ the J9s. Against this weak-tight player, it's not doing as bad if you get called as it would be versus a loose passive who would have a KJs or AJ in their range, but I would still tend to fold this pre, opponent being weak-tight. If this was a min-raise from the button I would be more likely to push, but a weak-tight min-raising from ths SB means strength in my experience. Usually they'll pop it 3x or more since they don't want a call when stealing. So, long story short, I fold pre.
  9. J9thabest420 J9thabest420 is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2007 (10/22/2007 6:59pm) in reply to Xeno85

    first thing get ridda that name or kill yourself, better yet just leave ir and leave yourself alone cuz being a qu eers(cubs) fan youre torturing yourself the rest of your life, all bout dat southside kid. howd the broomjob feel? LOL
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