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BBOY3110 3bets, do i overplay here with my 4bet?

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  1. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 8:17pm) in reply to Mike Kowal

     
    Originally Posted by Mike Kowal View Post

    Yea -- Don't know how som1 who explains the situation pretty well makes this absurdly horrid 4bet


    If I could play every hand the same way i'd play it after having 5 minutes after the fact to think it through, I'd be ranked. Heat of the moment locked me up no doubt.

    Was probably still giddy about hand before doubling with aces for one thing. Second part is that I'm not playing donks, where I probably just ship and get called. So now I'm trying to think it through given that it's 2 pretty competent players involved in the hand, with stacks that don't in any way commit them to getting it in. --------> confusion and timer beeping at me blah blah. so i just tried to 3xish and didnt even do the math right. plus never thought about 4betting that small. ez explanation.
     
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  2. darkhawk-200 darkhawk-200 is offline

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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 8:23pm) in reply to bonflizubi

    what wrong with shoving? if he views u as someone who won't 4bet bluff here ever
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  3. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 8:34pm) in reply to darkhawk-200

     
    Originally Posted by darkhawk-200 View Post

    what wrong with shoving? if he views u as someone who won't 4bet bluff here ever

    so you are saying he might see me as shoving as a bluff/light but never 4bet bluffing?

    If thats the case a shove probably isn't bad. No idea what my image was to him tho. We'd played together for probably an hour at this point. Dunno if I was perceived as a rando because he hadn't seen me before, or if by my play he might have some different perspective. Be interesting to see what his image of me was... hopefully he'll post itt
     
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  4. BBOY3110 BBOY3110 is offline

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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 11:24pm) in reply to Gettin Daize

     
    Originally Posted by Gettin Daize View Post

    yeh ur size is absurd he prol folds jacks, make it something silly to try to induce him to spazz or something even tho he prol wont at least give him a chance to. make it like 5888 or something...or just snap click it back, might think he has misclick equity n do something

    ya agree with this....ur sizing was obviously really big and you pretty much snap did it too....i had tens and if you made it smaller there's a chance I'd been oi and just shoved, but from your sizing and how quick you did it, it was obviously pretty strong....you played well tho, gl with everything.
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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 11:37pm) in reply to The Lab Rat

     
    Originally Posted by The Lab Rat View Post

    your 4 bet sizing tilts me. Id fold Jacks here to that sizing as Gettin Daize stated

    let's be honest...you'd probably fold jacks to the first open. it's not in that comfortable KK+ range of labrat playable hands

     
    Originally Posted by BBOY3110 View Post

    i had T3o

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  6. My Brim Low My Brim Low is offline

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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 11:42pm) in reply to Gags30

    nhs
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  7. el arracachero el arracachero is offline

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    Sep 3rd, 2010 (9/3/2010 2:08am) in reply to bonflizubi

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    so you are saying he might see me as shoving as a bluff/light but never 4bet bluffing?

    If thats the case a shove probably isn't bad. No idea what my image was to him tho. We'd played together for probably an hour at this point. Dunno if I was perceived as a rando because he hadn't seen me before, or if by my play he might have some different perspective. Be interesting to see what his image of me was... hopefully he'll post itt

    I dont think if you shoves BBoy thinks your bluffing for the same reason I said before: Original raiser stack size...most of the time he is opening/calling. What I do think is that if you shove, you are doing for value, but it seems you are isolating yourself with original raiser. With that in mind, your range for shoving/isolating is wider and gets more hero calls from BBboy.

    I agree with you that I would be a much better player if I could play my hands the sameway when I think of them later. It frustates me so much not being able to think clearly/fast in the heat of the moment..any suggestions guys for improving this? Mental exercises maybe?
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