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Best angle in tough cash game spot?

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  1. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:55pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    easy bet call....
     
  2. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:56pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    bet/call, only way to play it

    checking is super nitty and pretty much atrocious, you are letting him get there and possibly scaring off action from a hand like 99 TT JJ QQ or AK AQ AJ KQ etc with a diamond, depending on what the turn is...

    there are so many hands that you are beating that will give you action here...
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  3. JmL1984 JmL1984 is offline

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:57pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    alright cool, guess i was in the wrong. thanks for the info though, anything to help my game is greatly appreciated.

    sorry if i was an a** brian lol, didnt mean to be.
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:58pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    "about the only thing itaccomplishes is pushing him off a small flush draw, and against thisparticular opponent im not even sure it does that."

    Again, this advice makes noooooooooooooo sense. You say 'I'm not even sure your bet pushes him off of a small flush draw.' Well OK, that's what you WANT. You want him to tag along with a small diamond. You want him to get money in the pot with AdQx here. You want him to get it all in with JdJc here. You checking is only letting him catch up.
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:59pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    you are probably right here man.

    i guess i was thinking too much about crainemann and not enough about how to actually play the hand. shit i hate being nitty ;)
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 7:59pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    It's ok Jar, you weren't a jerk and I hope I wasn't either. This was actually one of the best hand disucssions ive had on here in a longggggggggg time! :)
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 8:05pm) in reply to JLucky34

    I don't play the .10/.25 games, but I cannot imagine any game or any opponent in which the correct play on this hand would be anything other than betting and calling the allin.
     
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 8:10pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    haha there is a reason i play the .25/.5 levels...gotta learn gotta learn :-p nah man you were offering good advice, just took it a while to register. im a donkey like that
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 8:27pm) in reply to DCal Zone

    Why are there so many responses to this post? lol
     
  10. GuiGui_88 GuiGui_88 is offline

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 10:03pm) in reply to JLucky34

    raise more preflop since your deeper
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 10:05pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    lol @ the "he might call with a draw so I don't want to bet" logic in this thread.

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    by TheWacoKidd on 1/21/2008 19:56 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR> </NOBR></TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD bgColor=#ffffff></TD><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>bet/call, only way to play it

    checking is super nitty and pretty much atrocious, you are letting him get there and possibly scaring off action from a hand like 99 TT JJ QQ or AK AQ AJ KQ etc with a diamond, depending on what the turn is...

    there are so many hands that you are beating that will give you action here...</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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  12. TheConArtist TheConArtist is offline

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 10:09pm) in reply to GuiGui_88

    Raise to $11 preflop.

    C Bet 2/3 to full pot.
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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 10:35pm) in reply to JLucky34

    Be happy if your getting it in with Jc Jd, your only reason for checking this flop is to make villain bet at the flop with hands he wouldnt play to a flop bet, but he would have to be extremely lag retareded
     
  14. JLucky34 JLucky34 is offline

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    Jan 21st, 2008 (1/21/2008 11:05pm) in reply to JLucky34

    saw some of you said you misread the OP, so I bolded what i figured was necessary to the decision making (didn't mention stack sizes in the beginning). wow glad this is of interest to you guys...i am playing right now but will read thru these responses later. much appreciated thx guys
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    Jan 22nd, 2008 (1/22/2008 1:28am) in reply to JLucky34

    what was the outcome of the hand?

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    Jan 22nd, 2008 (1/22/2008 7:40am) in reply to bossmanisme

    You have to bet this flop, I would think 14 would be around the right amount. If he shoves then you have a decision but most likely a call and you ship the pot
  17. namniewd namniewd is offline

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    Jan 22nd, 2008 (1/22/2008 7:55am) in reply to becks

    4 bet pre should be closer to $10...

    as played, bet 13ish on the flop and call shove... this is a spot where stats on villian would help enormously, especially pf/flop AF
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