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  1. Charliepants Charliepants is offline

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    Jun 1st, 2010 (6/1/2010 6:21pm)

    pokerstars Game #44441019816: Tournament #312010855, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (3000/6000) - 2010/05/22 0:23:31 ET
    Table '312010855 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: PhantomGG (205812 in chips)
    Seat 2: antoha21 (121912 in chips)
    Seat 3: luvnicehands (226244 in chips)
    Seat 4: PPraise (250890 in chips)
    Seat 5: EASSA (318190 in chips)
    Seat 6: Bianconero12 (62224 in chips)
    Seat 7: Naj111 (81326 in chips)
    Seat 8: reeda205 (269402 in chips)
    PhantomGG: posts the ante 600
    antoha21: posts the ante 600
    luvnicehands: posts the ante 600
    PPraise: posts the ante 600
    EASSA: posts the ante 600
    Bianconero12: posts the ante 600
    Naj111: posts the ante 600
    reeda205: posts the ante 600
    Naj111: posts small blind 3000
    reeda205: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to luvnicehands [Ts Qc]
    PhantomGG: folds
    antoha21: folds
    luvnicehands: raises 9000 to 15000
    PPraise has timed out
    PPraise: folds
    PPraise is sitting out
    EASSA: calls 15000
    Bianconero12: folds
    PPraise has returned
    Naj111: calls 12000
    reeda205: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9c 7c Qd]
    Naj111: checks
    luvnicehands: bets 32500

    As far as my open I like to stay active if I havnt got any good cards for a lil while ill open suited connectors and/or broadway cards etc.

    EASSA has been calling alot then folding to alot of flop bets.

    Naj111 has been a lil tricky. Floating and check raising some cbets etc

    The flop is kinda connected. I do have top pair and some back door draws. I dont see how this flop is really hitting them. IMO Im only beat by a few hands AQ AKc AA KK QQ and maybe they flats here with 99/77/J10? I am betting here for value but what I really need is some info.

    The pot is currently 55800

    is my bet too big here? Maybe ill get more info with 27500? Im not sure what my option here are? I dont like checking here thats for sure.
    Edited By: Charliepants Jun 2nd, 2010 at 02:20 AM
     
  2. l3iRdMaN l3iRdMaN is offline

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    Jun 1st, 2010 (6/1/2010 7:35pm) in reply to Charliepants

    i bet closer to 1/2 pot on the flop given his stack size. you put the villian in a bind when you bet 32k pot because he only has like 73k behind and might elect to fold some of his weaker holdings. heres the thing, with top pair on this board vs this villian's stack size you're never folding, so you need to bet an amount that will induce him to get it in as light as possible... just my 2 cents
     
  3. GutShotBen GutShotBen is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2010 (6/2/2010 5:27am) in reply to l3iRdMaN

    fold pre
     
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    Jun 3rd, 2010 (6/3/2010 2:24am) in reply to GutShotBen

    fooooold pre some of the times this tricky player could be stealing since you repped weakness and checkd
    so i like to put out a bet that will give me info on my opponents range. bet maybe 1/3 pot and find out what
    he does, he could just be labeling u as an easy to steal from player. so there is some equity in betting out of
    position here , it looks weak to him so he will have to determine if your reppin weakness or if you hold a
    monster.
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    Jun 3rd, 2010 (6/3/2010 3:23am) in reply to giveakshun

    I'd be a little apprehensive of the guy with 14 BB smooth calling...scarier than a re-raise. Or maybe he's just lousy, because Naj should clearly be in push/fold mode.

    As far as the Hero, I think you played it fine. I'm not always raising QToff there, but it's a reasonable way to mix up your play. The just-over-1/2 pot bet is fine as well, IMO. Unfortunately, you can't lay down to his shove, and I've just got a bad feeling that he's got the overpair.
     
  6. Charliepants Charliepants is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2010 (6/3/2010 11:26pm) in reply to grapsfan

     
    Originally Posted by GutShotBen View Post

    fold pre

    no

     
    Originally Posted by giveakshun View Post

    fooooold pre some of the times this tricky player could be stealing since you repped weakness and checkd
    so i like to put out a bet that will give me info on my opponents range. bet maybe 1/3 pot and find out what
    he does, he could just be labeling u as an easy to steal from player. so there is some equity in betting out of
    position here , it looks weak to him so he will have to determine if your reppin weakness or if you hold a
    monster.

    no I will not fold pre. I never showed weakness. I never checked. plz read the hh if youre going to post ty

     
    Originally Posted by grapsfan View Post

    I'd be a little apprehensive of the guy with 14 BB smooth calling...scarier than a re-raise. Or maybe he's just lousy, because Naj should clearly be in push/fold mode.

    As far as the Hero, I think you played it fine. I'm not always raising QToff there, but it's a reasonable way to mix up your play. The just-over-1/2 pot bet is fine as well, IMO. Unfortunately, you can't lay down to his shove, and I've just got a bad feeling that he's got the overpair.

    Thats what I was thinking as well. The turn was an offsuit 10 giving me top two and giving the straight his holdings were KJdd
     
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