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Betfair scamming too?

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  1. pdjplano pdjplano is offline

    Plano, TX
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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 12:36pm)

    seen here. what is going on, is the entire poker world just rigged or what :)

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    Apperantly there has been a huge security glitch at betfair. A pokerplayer using the nick 'vali' has been able to see his opponents hole cards, thus winning alot of money at highstakes HU matches. Betfair has compensated the loosing players in exchange for them keeping quite on the subject.

    Links:

    http://www.highstakesdb.com/forum/Topic134606-27-1.aspx

    Translation from norwegian blog:
    http://www.pokergoo.com/no/blog/view...sp?blogid=1794

    Rigged
    Played h2h with a donk and ran sick [bad]. I could not understand how it was possible that such a bad player could win against me and everybody else. The answer came yesterday. The [censored] could see his opponents cards. Fortunatly the site discovered this and everybody who busted against him got their money refunded. I hope there will be more information about this available on the net. A bit 'nasty' playing highstakes when there is a possibility that your opponent can see your cards.

    Firt comment: For thoose who are interested, this is 'vali' at betfair we are talking about.

    Translation from other norwegian blog:
    http://www.root.no/blog/2007/10/stor...re-pokersider/

    Big scam at betfair and other poker sites.
    If you are playing highstakes at pokertables theese days you should watch out. A player we have talked to told us that he just received $38.000 from betfair after he got scammed by a player who saw his cards.

    According to the rumors, we are talking about somebody with the nick vali. A search on the web shows that also other people has observed this aswell [links to the two pages above].

    The highstakes poker community is pretty tight, and people generally know who is playing where. Our man om the inside tells us that some people suddenly started playing against everybody and winning every session.

    Players who has lost against such people have gotten theire money back from betfair (which, for one player, apperantly is about $500.000).

    Some of the players that have been scammed are certain that they did not download any new software from betfair (ie. trojans), but that there has to be some kind of security glitch in betfairs systems that can be exploited to see the opponents hole cards.

    On the other hand, one of the persons we have talked to has reiceved an obvious scam from betfair-updates.com in the form of the following email apperantly from

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  2. Tsupa Tsupa is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 1:26pm) in reply to pdjplano

    More incentive for me to only play at pokerstars or Full Tilt. Those guys have too much to lose if a scandal like this happened, so I'd like to think they spend a little more money on security.
  3. actyper actyper is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 1:38pm) in reply to Tsupa

    Email just received from Betfair

    Dear xxxx ,

    Over the past few days, you may have received an email, SMS or text message with a website URL that asks you to download and install security updates for the Poker client. Regrettably, this is a malicious phishing attack. If you click on the link a Trojan virus infects your computer.

    For example, the subject may be something like, "Betfair Poker: Several different blacklisted I.P's have tried logging in to your Betfair Account and several memorable data and password failure were present."

    If you believe you are the victim of such an attack, please contact the Betfair Helpdesk <SPAN class=style1><SPAN>on the details below, </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>for assistance in protecting your Betfair account and minimizing the risks from this threat.

    UK Tel: 0870 9080 120
    Outside UK Tel: +44 207 074 7272
    Email: pokerinfo@betfair.com

    If you have clicked on this link or installed the Trojan, our advice is to contact the helpdesk and request they suspend your account. Then when you have removed the Trojan virus your account can be re-activated and the password changed.

    To help with protecting against attacks such as these, up to date Anti-virus programs should be used. For more detailed information on how to protect your computer and personal information while on the Internet select the help option on Betfairs web pages and click on security within the menu. Betfair will never contact you by email or SMS with a link to an executable for a security patch or product upgrade. You can always find information about planned upgrades and notices on the Betfair forum.

    Yours Sincerely

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    </SPAN>
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  4. mxGucci mxGucci is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 1:51pm) in reply to actyper

    No wonder they need prop players for high stake cash games eh.. to lure you into losing money against people who see your holecards.. muahahaha.. wow.. and i was actually considering opening an account on betfair for HU cash games.. yikes!
  5. RichardHurtz RichardHurtz is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 2:05pm) in reply to Tsupa

    More incentive for me to only play at pokerstars or Full Tilt. Those guys have too much to lose if a scandal like this happened, so I'd like to think they spend a little more money on security."

    How can you be certain. Everything is such a closed book.
  6. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 2:13pm) in reply to RichardHurtz

    If you can see opponents hole cards why make it so obvious? Also, does this affect Annette? Opinions...
  7. MattyDaCobra MattyDaCobra is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 2:45pm) in reply to bef99hwk

    Could Annette blind beat an opponent who can see both their cards?
     
  8. EradEcator EradEcator is offline

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    Oct 18th, 2007 (10/18/2007 2:49pm) in reply to MattyDaCobra

    thats what i wanna know, Annette_15 vs. POTRIPPER, she covers her cards......still wins,lol
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