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Betting less than half pot in mtt.

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  1. djdoodoo djdoodoo is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 12:25am)

    Hi,
    I'm deep in this tournament at the moment. Blinds are 4k. I'm on 100k stack. Anyways, when are people betting less than half pot after flop?
    Obv like less than half pot on river for value if you don't think you can get them to call with much but I see this less than half pot thing a lot. Explain?
  2. boneralert boneralert is online now

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 12:33am) in reply to djdoodoo

    I will use this at times myself. It's sort ofsimilar to the idea behind min raising preflop as opposed to raising 2.5x or 3x the blind. You risk less to win the same amount. Yes it will keep some villains around longer, but if you are confident in your multi-street post-flop game, then you can make out okay overall. What betting less than 1/2 pot on flop tends to do is keep the pot small so that there is room for more play on later streets. If done in a balanced way, it can also be a great way to induce check-raises or raises when you smash away the flop.

    The times I tend not to use it are when Im up against fishy/flatty players with awakardish stack sizes who I feel are just going to brush it aside too often. Against those players, Id rather bet a stronger c-bet or check, depending on the situation.
  3. PeaceGotAces PeaceGotAces is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 1:17am) in reply to boneralert

    ya with blinds like that i'm usually cbetting like 1/3 the pot in spots where the villain either has me crushed and isn't going anywhere or he has nothing and is folding alot. Pretty much just because i lose less when i get caught
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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 2:50am) in reply to PeaceGotAces

    i bet less than half pot almost 100% of the time now. Pretty standard these days is it not?
     
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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 3:35am) in reply to killingbird

    your bets should vary depending if its a reg or an unknown lesser talented player
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  6. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 3:59am) in reply to allani12

    i bet 25% with smallish stacks
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  7. joeyrulesall joeyrulesall is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 4:38am) in reply to RedIceRap

    I started doing this a few months ago in live tourneys and found myself with much better results, didnt realize its becoming popular online because i can only play on the anonymous piece of crap site bovada and no one knows how to bet on there anyway.
  8. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 10:56am) in reply to joeyrulesall

    Another one of those "give me the right answer " type of threads
    did u even make some thoughts on your own??

    how much u bet depends on a million factors obv and cant be explained in 2 sentences!!
     
  9. double_kyan double_kyan is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2012 (2/10/2012 9:48pm) in reply to BenFaz

    its a gr8 c-bet tool deeper in mtt's gr8 for extracting chips or c-bet folding is how i see it

    example pot:11,390 flop bet of 4239 should get same results as a flop bet of 5808
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  10. cartofor91 cartofor91 is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2012 (2/11/2012 1:02am) in reply to double_kyan

    also, what do you guys think about min raising preflop in tournaments? I like to raise to 2.5 x BB so the BB won't call me with any 2 cards because of good odds (though I don't think that makes much of a difference lol)

    how do you guys see this min preflop raise?
    Edited By: cartofor91 Feb 11th, 2012 at 01:06 AM
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    Feb 11th, 2012 (2/11/2012 1:10am) in reply to cartofor91

    2.25x ftw
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  12. Matty_B Matty_B is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2012 (2/11/2012 3:00am) in reply to RedIceRap

    I've found that at the micro stakes that size of flop bet looks like weakness to people and you end up getting played back at pretty light, so I like to do it with my very strong hands especially and then build the pot on the turn if they make a call. As long as you know you get played back at more its a great weapon to have and allows you to take down pots with less risk on the occasions when they do decide to fold.
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    Feb 11th, 2012 (2/11/2012 7:38pm) in reply to matze_widi

     
    Originally Posted by matze_widi View Post

    Another one of those "give me the right answer " type of threads
    did u even make some thoughts on your own??

    how much u bet depends on a million factors obv and cant be explained in 2 sentences!!

    Of course I did jackass. Thanks to everyone else that gave me the time of day and helped me understand it better.
    Edited By: djdoodoo Feb 11th, 2012 at 07:38 PM
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  14. SmashBrawl SmashBrawl is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2012 (2/13/2012 9:29pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    You'd be surprised how many players in the lower buyins fold to 1/4pot bets or less. I've only been doing this for a little while, but I'm starting to think it's profitable to c-bet 1/4 pot basically 100% of the time in low buy in mtts. If you get raised, much of the time the villain will go away easily from a three bet. I think 1/4pot bet, three bet looks stronger than a check raise.
  15. leeroydafish leeroydafish is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2012 (2/14/2012 1:38am) in reply to SmashBrawl

    Great for keeping a pot smaller so you can let rip with more barrells cheaply
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