Villain has been playing fishy leading out with 3rd pair in multiway pots...

How bad is a flat here given my stack size?


pokerstars Game #67562453730: Tournament #538010574, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (125/250) - 2011/09/15 17:01:57 ET
Table '538010574 121' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 88Xin88 (6222 in chips)
Seat 2: ShortyFlix (3725 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: mi777 (7216 in chips)
Seat 4: Princesa (7134 in chips)
Seat 5: danrose29 (1619 in chips)
Seat 6: Mookai707 (14140 in chips)
Seat 7: KaptianKush (5491 in chips)
Seat 8: goonies2 (19204 in chips)
Seat 9: ramiro_ak (5458 in chips)
88Xin88: posts the ante 30
ShortyFlix: posts the ante 30
mi777: posts the ante 30
Princesa: posts the ante 30
danrose29: posts the ante 30
Mookai707: posts the ante 30
KaptianKush: posts the ante 30
goonies2: posts the ante 30
ramiro_ak: posts the ante 30
Mookai707: posts small blind 125
KaptianKush: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 88Xin88 [Qs Js]
goonies2: raises 500 to 750
ramiro_ak: folds
88Xin88: ???????????????

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Hand #2


PokerStars Game #67563799826: Tournament #538010574, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2011/09/15 17:27:28 ET
Table '538010574 121' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 88Xin88 (15438 in chips)
Seat 2: A_PIRAT (6575 in chips)
Seat 3: kawish (11484 in chips)
Seat 4: Princesa (16963 in chips)
Seat 5: tiesto1983 (16353 in chips)
Seat 6: kukolnik777 (16972 in chips)
Seat 7: mabumsel (5380 in chips)
Seat 8: goonies2 (31671 in chips)
Seat 9: ramiro_ak (15563 in chips)
88Xin88: posts the ante 60
A_PIRAT: posts the ante 60
kawish: posts the ante 60
Princesa: posts the ante 60
tiesto1983: posts the ante 60
kukolnik777: posts the ante 60
mabumsel: posts the ante 60
goonies2: posts the ante 60
ramiro_ak: posts the ante 60
kawish: posts small blind 250
Princesa: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 88Xin88 [9c 8c]
tiesto1983: calls 500
kukolnik777: folds
mabumsel: folds
goonies2: folds
ramiro_ak: folds
88Xin88: ???????????????

How often are you limping behind here? If you were to ISO raise how much?

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Hand #3

Seat 1: 88Xin88 (15063 in chips)
Seat 2: A_PIRAT (6885 in chips)
Seat 3: kawish (16044 in chips)
Seat 4: Princesa (14733 in chips)
Seat 5: tiesto1983 (14218 in chips)
Seat 6: kukolnik777 (14532 in chips)
Seat 7: mabumsel (10150 in chips)
Seat 8: goonies2 (30441 in chips)
Seat 9: ramiro_ak (14333 in chips)
88Xin88: posts the ante 60
A_PIRAT: posts the ante 60
kawish: posts the ante 60
Princesa: posts the ante 60
tiesto1983: posts the ante 60
kukolnik777: posts the ante 60
mabumsel: posts the ante 60
goonies2: posts the ante 60
ramiro_ak: posts the ante 60
A_PIRAT: posts small blind 250
kawish: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 88Xin88 [Tc Th]
Princesa: folds
tiesto1983: folds
kukolnik777: folds
mabumsel: folds
goonies2: folds
ramiro_ak: raises 600 to 1100
88Xin88: ????????

Are you 3betting, Jamming - or flatting in position. You are 75 away from the money

the only way i'm calling the utg with qj-ss is if i have him pegged pretty good on ak thru prior betting patterns and i plan on taking it down with good flop texture, otherwise muck it, the 89ss lol i raise this to 1200 but tht s me, utg limps it and lets see whts up with him in position, now ur tt hand im jamming the lp raiser all in thats how i play it bro gl out there

 

Originally Posted by Sdanby

stop thinking like a fish and fold the 1st two, you are not deep enough to flat and your hand isnt gonna play well against a randoms UTG 3x range. 3rd hand im 3bet/getting it in.

Pretty much this. You could make it 1600 or so for the 98 but you def don't have to, especially with 30bb. 40bb+ and I would iso him.

Hand 1: Don't even think of getting involved and calling is the worst option. You'd be better off 3b calling than flatting in this spot, but I don't recommend any thing but a fold here. Calling is complete spew.

Hand 2: Probably never limping behind and I'd need a decent enough reason to iso him. Have you seen him call raises oop before and then ck fold the flop? If so, go ahead. If not, just fold and move along.

Hand 3: So best I can tell if that you have the button here and we're facing a raise from the c/o. What is your read of this player? If he has shown ANY sort of tendancy to steal blinds/open light, I'm getting it in here. In fact, against all but the tightest of players I'm getting it in here, so reads are helpful but not super critical.

How we're getting it in depends on hte history between us or what we know about the player's tendancies. I'm more inclined to 3b/call, making it any where between ~2400-3000 and calling his shove. I'm ESPECIALLY doing this if we've 3b any of this other steal attempts. I'm also doing this if I know/think this player is capable of 4b jamming light at all. If you think he's type of player that is likely to flat your 3b then make it a little bigger. If you think he's the type of player to come over the top, then make it a little smaller to let him think he has some fold equity with his 4bshove.

Folding is not an option. Calling kinda sucks. Jamming is fine but ur kinda too deep. I'm thinking 3b/call is gonna be most profitable.

btw, i didn't read any of the previous response, so I'm sorry if this is redundant.

 

Originally Posted by mcandrews3rd

Hand 1 is an easy fold were too shallow to flat n is a spewy shove imo

Hand 2 I'm almost always raising here against a bad villain, make it like 1.7, hand 3 I'm only 3 bet calling with an active image or dynamic between us, its fine to flat here instead

this seems pretty spot on...def dont hate overlimpin in position with 89ss tho def multiple ways u can play it dependin on villian dynamics and playstyle. With that being said if i do raise im def makin the sizin near 1700