I don't raise this pre, I can probably get away from it??? This was only the 5th or so hand of this 180.

PokerStars Game #22090638696: Tournament #120901833, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/11/16 11:40:08 ET
Table '120901833 8' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: TEXMEX85 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: SOMP73 (1110 in chips)
Seat 3: jerichoholic (1415 in chips)
Seat 4: admiral10 (2005 in chips)
Seat 5: AeroJim (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: gerzer666 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: cree1748 (1550 in chips)
Seat 8: MickeyTs08 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: NIKE'87 (1480 in chips)
AeroJim: posts small blind 10
gerzer666: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AeroJim [Ad Qc]
cree1748: calls 20
MickeyTs08: calls 20
NIKE'87: folds
TEXMEX85: folds
SOMP73: calls 20
jerichoholic: folds
admiral10: calls 20
AeroJim: calls 10
gerzer666: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 9c 8h]
AeroJim: bets 100
gerzer666: folds
cree1748: calls 100
MickeyTs08: folds
SOMP73: calls 100
admiral10: folds
*** TURN *** [As 9c 8h] [4h]
AeroJim: bets 420
cree1748: folds
SOMP73: raises 420 to 840
AeroJim: raises 420 to 1260
SOMP73: calls 150 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (270) returned to AeroJim
*** RIVER *** [As 9c 8h 4h] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AeroJim: shows [Ad Qc] (a pair of Aces)
SOMP73: shows [Ah 4c] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
AeroJim said, "idiot"
SOMP73 collected 2400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2400 | Rake 0
Board [As 9c 8h 4h Kc]
Seat 1: TEXMEX85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SOMP73 showed [Ah 4c] and won (2400) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 3: jerichoholic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: admiral10 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: AeroJim (small blind) showed [Ad Qc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: gerzer666 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: cree1748 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: MickeyTs08 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: NIKE'87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

so you got it all-in in an unraised pot with just top pair and you call the guy an idiot. lol.

 

Originally Posted by AeroJim

I can't explain me not raising pf, in this tourny every1 calls a preflop raise with any hand after they have already limped, never fails. So based on history of a $4 180 I never raise this prf.

So, you don't want other players calling your raises with dominated hands? Just think about that for a second. It's really hard not to flame you, but I'm gonna try. Just think about what you just said.

youre never getting raised on the turn by anything you beat

Raise pf to 200. Maybe 1 caller (the a4 guy or they may all fold). C/R all in on the flop. You get it all in as a huge favorite. It's the absolute best you can do. All you can do is make the best decisions on each street.

Hell, you could lead out the flop and A4 is probably gonna raise you anyway in that tourney.

Jennifear Pwns

personally i am fine with not raising this pre, it is the first level and there will be heaps of opportunities for the droolers to give you their chips.

the caveat of not raising it however is that you dont go broke with TPGK in a 6way pot.

Calling his turn raise isn't that bad really, when you consider your odds relative to his potential hands. He's really very short, and there's quite a few Ahxh hands that he's probably going to play like this, as well as possibly some combo draws, and occasionally worse aces as well.

Do you expect him to fold AJo to your turn bet? Obviously you don't if you're making this bet, so I can't see a call being bad at all. Seems like a pretty standard hand that you played fine. Obviously his min raise rather than just pushing in the extra few chips may be slightly telling, but I don't think you can read enough into it to get away here.
I'm also not really sure the purpose of showing how AQ fares against 5 random hands on the flop. 55% equity against 5 hands is a ton. All that really shows is that this is obviously an easy bet on the flop, to narrow the field and for value. Thats like comparing AA's equity against 5 random hands pre.

Anyway, you're obviously behind more often than not, but against a range of:

99-88,AJs,AhTh,A9s-A8s,Ah7h,Ah6h,Ah5h,A4s,Ah3h,Ah2h,QhJh,QhTh,JhTh,Th 7h,98s,7h6h,AJo,A9o-A8o,A4o,98o, you're easily getting odds to call. This range doesn't include any AT hands as well, which I think are often getting played. Additionally it includes all 98, A9 and A8 combos that are often going to raise the flop. Some of the flush and straight draw hands may not play it like this, but they make up such a small part of the range and don't increase your equity that much anyway. Even with them out, its still easily a call.