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Blind on Blind Deep in 5quad...Is this a Fold

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  1. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 4:17am)

    Is this a call or fold... im confused on this one.. thx

    Table '409010673 151' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: leepidoo (567458 in chips)
    Seat 2: Hilas10 (640156 in chips)
    Seat 3: skkills (315322 in chips)
    Seat 4: eicho90 (712938 in chips)
    Seat 6: deucehigh82 (714837 in chips)
    Seat 7: sparkabit (457820 in chips)
    Seat 8: wluczykij8 (876340 in chips)
    Seat 9: aceandrag (318878 in chips)
    leepidoo: posts the ante 2500
    Hilas10: posts the ante 2500
    skkills: posts the ante 2500
    eicho90: posts the ante 2500
    deucehigh82: posts the ante 2500
    sparkabit: posts the ante 2500
    wluczykij8: posts the ante 2500
    aceandrag: posts the ante 2500
    Hilas10: posts small blind 10000
    skkills: posts big blind 20000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to skkills [2c 2h]
    eicho90: folds
    deucehigh82: folds
    sparkabit: folds
    wluczykij8: folds
    aceandrag: folds
    leepidoo: folds
    Hilas10: raises 617656 to 637656 and is all-in
     
  2. H0LDiT H0LDiT is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 4:21am) in reply to Skkills

    I fold
  3. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 4:32am) in reply to H0LDiT

    With 15bb def a fold.. If the guy just raised a push with enough fold equity would be ok but calling and flipping at best with 15bb is bad
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  4. TpocketT TpocketT is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 4:35am) in reply to RedIceRap

    fold 100% of the time.
  5. SSG SSG is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 4:42am) in reply to TpocketT

    ..22...even if he shoves 34...you still be flipping..

    i snap fold
  6. Albatross77 Albatross77 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:12am) in reply to Skkills

    I call quickly and I'm pretty happy about it. I guess I'm the only one. The people who said fold, are you also tossing stuff like QT, K8, etc.? You only have 15 BB's and the structure in the 5 quad is super fast/poor. Without any reads, I would naturally assume the small blind is shoving any two cards here. One of those cards might even be a deuce!

    I mean, the thought that you can win massive field tournaments without going to showdown for your entire stack once in awhile with some ugly hands is sort of naive in my opinion. Then again, I haven't won anything in many months so I doubt what I say in regard to calling ranges is of much value.
     
  7. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:16am) in reply to Albatross77

    ok folding seem to be the overall thought.. but how do you get to the math of this.. can someone work that out for me thanks
     
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  8. Dr.Guillotine Dr.Guillotine is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:36am) in reply to SSG

    close your eyes.

    enie meenie miney mo catch a tiger by the toe...

    You know the rest, sweet.
  9. iamthedeck ftw iamthedeck ftw is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:42am) in reply to Dr.Guillotine

    fold for me feel way better calling with any broadway
     
  10. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:49am) in reply to iamthedeck ftw

    calling here would be pretty bad and pls jusr get pokerstove and do the math urself ffs
    Edited By: MakeMeMaster Mar 3rd, 2011 at 05:52 AM
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  11. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 5:55am) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    was just unsure on how to calc it was looking for help.. its cool i got it now..
     
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  12. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 12:37pm) in reply to iamthedeck ftw

     
    Originally Posted by Albatross77 View Post

    I call quickly and I'm pretty happy about it. I guess I'm the only one. The people who said fold, are you also tossing stuff like QT, K8, etc.? You only have 15 BB's and the structure in the 5 quad is super fast/poor. Without any reads, I would naturally assume the small blind is shoving any two cards here. One of those cards might even be a deuce!

    I mean, the thought that you can win massive field tournaments without going to showdown for your entire stack once in awhile with some ugly hands is sort of naive in my opinion. Then again, I haven't won anything in many months so I doubt what I say in regard to calling ranges is of much value.

    With 15bb --> bad

     
    Originally Posted by iamthedeck ftw View Post

    fold for me feel way better calling with any broadway

    With 15bb --> bad

    Btw what is the 5 quad? Thought it's the 5$ 2r1a, but the structure is pretty awesome there
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