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Was the bluff on Allen the biggest bluff in wsop me history?

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  1. Buchsbaumy Buchsbaumy is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 3:51pm)

    i was half out ofit, but at 425am east. i remember seeing Paul ( i think) rerereraise allin and getting allen to fold 10's, with like at least 50% of his stack in the pot, which Paul HAD to think he was pot commited, but allen folded, and dude showed KQdd with 3 hearts on the board..

    those who saw it, ... best hand of the night to that point fo sho? and biggest $2,000,000 bluff in history? cause it seems dangerous as hell

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  2. ltquick ltquick is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 3:55pm) in reply to Buchsbaumy

    I think Moneymaker's bluff on Farha was more significant. If Sammy calls him there, he cripples Moneymaker and probably wins the event. And Moneymaker winning the main event had an impact on poker beyond the actual 2003 Main Event, so I 'd go with that bluff over Wasicka's.
  3. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 4:00pm) in reply to ltquick

    agreed Wasicka's bluff was huuuuuuge but Moneymaker's was bigger 'cause again, if Farha wins, no poker boom, no 12 million dollars on the line yesterday. That was sick though. Wasn't the flop AK9 hearts though so Wasicka had a pair of kings, I remember them saying he was bluffing with kinghigh but I thought I remembered AK9 flop. I might be wrong. f pocket tens though, allen lost most of his chips with them and wasicka lost the ME with them.
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  4. iLLNuGWichee iLLNuGWichee is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 4:03pm) in reply to FenwayKing

    flop was AJ9h ..sick ass bluff
     
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 4:06pm) in reply to iLLNuGWichee

    Five Questions with Mike Matusow
    by Eric Raskin

    What’s the best bluff you ever pulled off?
    Without a doubt, it was a hand I played at the World Series last year, but it wasn’t televised. I was up against Freddy Bonyadi, we were both among the top four chip leaders in the tournament at the time, he raised on the button, I re-raised him with 2-6 off, and he called. The flop came something like 10-J-5 with two spades, I bet pretty big, and he called. The turn card came a deuce of spades, gave me deuces and put three spades on the board, and I bet real big, and he called. And then the board paired on the river and I moved in for like $2.5-million, and he folded and rumor had it he went to the bathroom and puked. He told me he didn’t have anything, but I believe he had a flush. He went in the tank for like 10 minutes. We were the two chip leaders, and I didn’t think he wanted to be wrong against me and go broke in this pot. But I know he made a big laydown, because after the hand he insisted he wanted to see what I had. I said, “You don’t want to see what I have.” He said, “No, I want to see it,” and I showed the 6-2, and he immediately left the table and went to the bathroom to vomit. It’s a shame the hand wasn’t at a TV table, we talk about it all the time.
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 4:12pm) in reply to ShortStack3

    Wheres the other 4 questions?
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 4:25pm) in reply to Fitz420

    2
    Who’s the one player you hate to see sitting at your table?
    Phil Ivey. Him and Daniel Negreanu, they’re both dangerous. I’ll tell you who I like to play with: Alan Goehring. People don’t like to play with him, but they don’t know how to play against him. He plays every hand, and you just sit there and let him pick up all the small pots and you just punish him when you have a hand, that’s all.

    3
    What nicknames have you had in your life besides “The Mouth”?
    I was “Prime Time” for about five years. And then I was “Loudmouth,” and I didn’t like that. So I pretty much told people to call me “Mike The Mouth” because with TV and all, I thought it was a good nickname, good image, I was trying to market myself.

    4
    Who’s more fun to go to war with: Phil Hellmuth or Shawn Sheikhan?
    Phil’s fun to go to war with because he’s a whining little baby. Me and Shawn are friends. And actually, me and Phil are friends. We hung out for three hours the other night at the pool. But I told Phil, “You know, you’ve got to stop showing everybody when you lose a hand or you make a big laydown. And you’ve got to stop whining when you lose. You need to just be quiet and focus.”

    5
    Would you trade in your Tournament of Champions victory to finish in second place in last year’s World Series Main Event?
    Yes … No, I don’t know about “yes.” I don’t know. That’s such a tough question. As unlucky as I got at the final table at the World Series, to come right back and beat 113 of the best players in the world at the TOC, that was a big accomplishment. To me, it was just as big as winning the World Series. But I don’t know. That’s probably the toughest question I’ve ever been asked. I know I don’t give a shit about money. My answer has nothing to do with money, I just wanted to win the World Series. And believe me, if we played with the same nine people 1,000 times, I’d win it 950 times. And I would finish ninth just one time of 1,000. Believe me when I tell you this.
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 5:50pm) in reply to ShortStack3

    I think this was probably the most significant pot of the final table... If Cunningham calls and wins, I think he has something like 17 or 18 mil. I was always thinking if he got back up to 20 mil or so he would have just as good a shot to win it as Gold did w/ a big stack. Gold played great, but Cunningham is that good. This pot affected the outcome of the final four placings more than any other IMO, what a sick play, my caps off to him. Will also be interesting to see what he had when he raised to 700k earlier, Kim came over the top to 2.1m, and Wasicka pushed in...
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 6:40pm) in reply to MKGB

    yeah that pot significantly hurt cunningham's chances. if he wins that pot, he finishes at least 2nd and has a good shot to take it down. great bluff by wasicka though, if not for that he definitely doesn't finish 2nd in my opinion.
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  10. PassTheSugahh PassTheSugahh is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 6:59pm) in reply to FenwayKing

    If he decides to just fold there and not bluff cunningham....cunningham is your ME champ i think. With that pot he woulda been able to get to HU with Gold and i think prevail even if he faced a 2-1 or 3-1 chip disadvantage.
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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 7:03pm) in reply to Buchsbaumy

    how good of a bluff it was will depend on what Allen had showing on his hole card cam. He said TT but who knows.
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