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Is this a bluff? (Hand from $20/1r/1a)

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  1. Devil42 Devil42 is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 3:08am)

    Early in the $20/1r/1a.
    My only note on villain reads: "fish, traps with big hand"

    pokerstars Game #<SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1205910400_0>16070535433</SPAN>: Tournament #81218130, $20+$2 Hold'em
    No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/03/18 - 14:28:58 (ET)
    Table '81218130 9' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: nbanker (2950 in chips)
    Seat 2: PedjaMN (3210 in chips)
    Seat 3: Devil42 (2620 in chips)
    Seat 4: PEACHmfc. (2000 in chips)
    Seat 5: FERTRUCHO (4160 in chips)
    Seat 6: glazy85 (2940 in chips)
    Seat 7: ROBINJOOO (2680 in chips)
    Seat 8: wolfTree83 (4600 in chips)
    Seat 9: Joe Devola12 (2940 in chips)
    nbanker: posts small blind 10
    PedjaMN: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Devil42 [Ks Ah]
    Devil42: raises 60 to 80
    PEACHmfc.: folds
    FERTRUCHO: calls 80
    glazy85: folds
    ROBINJOOO: calls 80
    wolfTree83: folds
    Joe Devola12: folds
    nbanker: folds
    PedjaMN: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 4h As]
    Devil42: checks
    FERTRUCHO: checks
    ROBINJOOO: bets 220
    Devil42: calls 220
    FERTRUCHO: folds
    *** TURN *** [Qc 4h As] [Qh]
    Devil42: checks
    ROBINJOOO: bets 500
    Devil42: ???

    The bet on turn was fired out very fast.
     
  2. bukowski101 bukowski101 is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 3:36am) in reply to Devil42

    I don't understand why u don't bet the flop, why check call? As played, I would prob call. prob has an Ace imo.
     
  3. redirkulous redirkulous is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 3:37am) in reply to bukowski101

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    please Cbet this flop...

    as played obv u have to call turn.
     
  4. Devil42 Devil42 is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 3:43am) in reply to bukowski101

    I will explain in more detail later, but for a short explanation:

    This flop is very safe for me, unless someone got AA, QQ, AQ, 44.
    So probably I won't get much action from weaker hands, but could lose a lot of chips to those that beat me.

    By checking the flop I can keep the pot small in case someone has AQ or better, and I also can induce some bluffs (or value bets) by hands that I easily beat.
    Especially in the beginning of a tourney there are always some players who try stupid bluffs.

    Finally, checking also mixes up my game and makes me harder to read. So other players cannot be sure whether I hit or missed when I check the flop.
     
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  5. SeRvE_VolleY SeRvE_VolleY is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 4:08am) in reply to Devil42

    what hands does he have to call you with on pre-flop raise?? then does he betting relate to that range? 

    YES - Fold

    NO- Call
  6. SeRvE_VolleY SeRvE_VolleY is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 4:14am) in reply to SeRvE_VolleY

    problem is you didnt CBet flop so you are now going in blind...does he have KQs, does he have KJs (my logical choice)...but without information from betting you are going in blind...imo...if you CBet and he calls...his hands would have to be 44, AQ (unlikely with AQ and now anothe Q on turn) KQ AJs...

    im calling and hoping i dont see a 10......
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    Mar 19th, 2008 (3/19/2008 4:15am) in reply to redirkulous

    Jason,

    Congrats on your score too....saw some of your plays....nice work
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