"Why doesn't bodog have sync breaks? I would def put some $ on for at least a few daily tournaments if they had them. But as of now i dont care how many other improvements are made without sync breaks there is no possible way im coming back...and im pretty sure im not the only one. "

I had emailed them about sync breaks long time ago. It should be a very simple thing. I don't understand why Bodog don't have sync breaks. It should be the first thing they should change. It's very sad to see people left Bodog.

 

Originally Posted by o11pokerdr

"Why doesn't bodog have sync breaks? I would def put some $ on for at least a few daily tournaments if they had them. But as of now i dont care how many other improvements are made without sync breaks there is no possible way im coming back...and im pretty sure im not the only one. "

I had emailed them about sync breaks long time ago. It should be a very simple thing. I don't understand why Bodog don't have sync breaks. It should be the first thing they should change. It's very sad to see people left Bodog.

If you do a quick search on here you can read some discussion about the merits of not syncing breaks. There is a lot more to it than this, but the short answer is that winning/withdrawing players (like yourself) benifit from synced breaks, while casual/recreational/depositing/losing players do not. And it takes a lot of depositors to support one withdrawer.

Why should a HSMTT player deposit on bodog? (Serious Question)

I'm with you on the flaming cards, but casual players actually dig that type of crap, so.... that's why it's there.

"The 100k gets very close to the guarantee now, and the ticket system is to thank for that. You can still use your satelite tickets to play whichever event you choose, you just need to choose the event BEFORE you play the satelite, does that make sense?

Yes it does make sense the way you explain it. But it doesn't make sense to constrict the player to a single event that the satellite is for. This is like circa 2006-2007 when Full Tilt was the same, they changed to the T$ system and ticket system and they are doing OK. Bodog regressed in this sense while other sites progressed and were successful with it. Oh I know it's new, but if they keep this system I certainly hope to see a bump in guarantees because that would be the only reason for it......

The added $ BPO events have a guaranteed overlay, how can you possibly complain about that?

Yes it's guaranteed overlay, I just find the allure and stamp of a guaranteed prize pool appeals to me more. I'm a casual player so I'm probably speaking for a majority here, I don't know. Do you think the BPO was a success? Serious question, I didn't play any of the events or follow the series.

The functionality of the software is very important, what specifically do you find to be non-functioning?"

When i'm multi-tabling Bodog doesn't pop up when the action is to me I have to keep a constant eye on my one Bodog table while trying to play six or seven others. No timebank is ludicrous, but I'm glad it's being fixed. Synch breaks is obviously a HUGE thing for any kind of serious player. I'll review the old thread so you don't have to repeat the same thing over and over I just can't figure out what benefit NOT having them is to casual/losing players. The lobby is atrocious, doesn't update, can't look up who won previous tournaments, etc. It's just..........bodog software. It's not appealing or sexy in any way.

 

Originally Posted by Burying_Luck

I'm with you on the flaming cards, but casual players actually dig that type of crap, so.... that's why it's there.

"The 100k gets very close to the guarantee now, and the ticket system is to thank for that. You can still use your satelite tickets to play whichever event you choose, you just need to choose the event BEFORE you play the satelite, does that make sense?

Yes it does make sense the way you explain it. But it doesn't make sense to constrict the player to a single event that the satellite is for. This is like circa 2006-2007 when Full Tilt was the same, they changed to the T$ system and ticket system and they are doing OK. Bodog regressed in this sense while other sites progressed and were successful with it. Oh I know it's new, but if they keep this system I certainly hope to see a bump in guarantees because that would be the only reason for it......It is the reason for it, just like it was the reason for it when FTP did it. If you want to target players into specific events so that they meet/exceed the guarantee, tickets are the way to do it.

The added $ BPO events have a guaranteed overlay, how can you possibly complain about that?

Yes it's guaranteed overlay, I just find the allure and stamp of a guaranteed prize pool appeals to me more. I'm a casual player so I'm probably speaking for a majority here, I don't know. Do you think the BPO was a success? Serious question, I didn't play any of the events or follow the series. I think it was a success overall, but no more successful than I thought it would be. I was suprised a bit by the turnout for the $100 turbo.

The functionality of the software is very important, what specifically do you find to be non-functioning?"

When i'm multi-tabling Bodog doesn't pop up when the action is to me I have to keep a constant eye on my one Bodog table while trying to play six or seven others. No timebank is ludicrous, but I'm glad it's being fixed. Synch breaks is obviously a HUGE thing for any kind of serious player. I'll review the old thread so you don't have to repeat the same thing over and over I just can't figure out what benefit NOT having them is to casual/losing players. The lobby is atrocious, doesn't update, can't look up who won previous tournaments, etc. It's just..........bodog software. It's not appealing or sexy in any way.

You should be able to make the table come to front on your action (seems like mine works like this) I'll look into it. The benefit to the casual/losing player of not having synced breaks is that it provides a disincentive to the winning/grinder(who WILL take his money over time)
and from what I have read, not syncing breaks has kept many, many successful tournament grinders from entering the field.

 

Originally Posted by jtj03

Originally Posted by jtj03
I dont want bodog to be dead, but the lack of promotions is a problem, I have had issues in the past with getting money on and off, but literally havnt played there in 2 years or so so really cant speak much on this issue. They havnt done anything to convince me or a lot of other grinders to come back.
Promotions are a great topic to discuss, what specifically would you like to see?

Getting money on and off is not the issue it was 2 years ago, checks are freaky fast these days.

Convincing grinders to come back is pretty much the opposite of what they are trying to do. They are trying to increase the number of casual depositing players (you know, the ones who we make our living off).

I didnt realize bodog was in a position to be specific with who they are trying to attract, but as for some promotions I think there could be a couple different things: Leaderboards, everyone loves them, even if it says your 10221 for the month....

idk if you have any type of ties between the sportsbook and poker (I assume you do) but give free rolls for ppl that do x sports betting and vice versa for poker players.

Prob doesnt matter till they sync breaks but then thats only appealing to the grinders so I doubt they really care to do that either....

If you read some of the past threads you'll see an explanation for why they want to attract depositors rather than withdrawers.

The downside of leaderboards (especially on a small site) is that the same small handful of grinders consistantly scoops the bulk of the bonus money, they removed these and are using those promotional funds in other areas. You might still see a TLb for a series in the future though. The smaller the sample for the TLB the more luck is involved in who tops it. I shouldn't say that they WILL have TLB's on future series, because I don't know that, but it does make more sense than weekly/monthly/yearly ones, and is probably something they'll atleast consider.

They do lots of the cross-promoting that you are refering to. The free bet football MTT's are a good example.

My thoughts...

In general, Bodog has gotten better, there is no denying this. Although it will be slow, I see things improving steadily in the future, a nice change of pace from the slow decline they were still in as recently as 6 months ago.

Bonflizubi makes a great suggestion for T$, I agree that a reasonable and effective compromise is to have tickets given out for the buy-in, that can be used for any tourney of that buy-in.

 

The added $ BPO events have a guaranteed overlay, how can you possibly complain about that?

In fairness, these "promotions" very often resulted in a tournament with less value than a regular 10k/100k sunday. Once Bodog starts regularly covering the guarantee, then "added-money" tournaments will be viewed as a promotion, as opposed to an excuse to have a smaller overlay.

 

The functionality of the software is very important, what specifically do you find to be non-functioning?

Selecting the text in the "enter bet" input box, and then entering my bet amount can be frustratingly difficult sometimes. It doesn't always select the text, instead putting the flashing | in the middle of the number default, which has jammed me up numerous times. What would be really awesome is if you could just click on the table and it defaults to the enter bet input, so you don't even need to click it, you just click the table, input bet and hit enter.

Being able to click anywhere on the screen and drag the table also jams me up sometimes. Sometimes it's helpful, but overall I would say it's a nuisance.

 

Promotions are a great topic to discuss, what specifically would you like to see?

A leaderboard with some quality rewards. I understand you're not trying to reward the regular winners with your promotional money, but I think there's a compromise that would work. I would suggest a weekly leaderboard. Lowering the volume that goes into the leaderboard increases the likelihood that amateurs can win/place on a regular basis. Have the winner play the following saturday or sunday against one of your pros for some money/tourney tix and the top 8 play a sng with a pro for some more money/tourney tix. Hell, even throw in some free bets as prizes to promote the other side of your operation, value is value, it doesn't have to be cash.

bodogNATE

sattys are wonderful. love em. sync breaks would be a big plus. maybe a 109 tourny nighty even if its another 10k. need a bigger nightly! keep the live event satellites coming. run BPO twice a year? send me american checks? work with me here!

and Bring back TLB!

see ya at the tables

Nate,

I know this goes against everything bodog is trying to do but somehow work with us and find new tourny series that run during a certain week and strive for some kind of a TLB. Regardless im fine with bodog now. Still easy money there...

 

Originally Posted by skeptix

Have the winner play the following saturday or sunday against one of your pros for some money/tourney tix and the top 8 play a sng with a pro for some more money/tourney tix. Hell, even throw in some free bets as prizes to promote the other side of your operation, value is value, it doesn't have to be cash.

THUMBS UP i like this

 

Originally Posted by bennyb56721

Less turbos more double stacks $33+.

Agree. Higher buyins bigger guarantees.

Bring back a 12 K Guarantee at 60+6

At 8 Pm

Then you have a lower one after.

Or a couple of 6 K s at 30 + 3

Run some sattys daily for them.

VERY IMPORTANT

I know there's a check/fold button, what I'm saying is that u can't click that button until someone bets, so u can't just check after the flop and click check/fold, u have to wait until someone bets. Nobody else has this.. maybe just me. Either way, the check/fold button isn't the same as a fold to any bet button, b/c u have to click it again on the turn/river if everyone checks the flop, which happens way too much on bodog. Ok thanks.[/QUOTE]

 

Originally Posted by skeptix

My thoughts...

In general, Bodog has gotten better, there is no denying this. Although it will be slow, I see things improving steadily in the future, a nice change of pace from the slow decline they were still in as recently as 6 months ago.

Bonflizubi makes a great suggestion for T$, I agree that a reasonable and effective compromise is to have tickets given out for the buy-in, that can be used for any tourney of that buy-in.

In fairness, these "promotions" very often resulted in a tournament with less value than a regular 10k/100k sunday. Once Bodog starts regularly covering the guarantee, then "added-money" tournaments will be viewed as a promotion, as opposed to an excuse to have a smaller overlay.

Selecting the text in the "enter bet" input box, and then entering my bet amount can be frustratingly difficult sometimes. It doesn't always select the text, instead putting the flashing | in the middle of the number default, which has jammed me up numerous times. What would be really awesome is if you could just click on the table and it defaults to the enter bet input, so you don't even need to click it, you just click the table, input bet and hit enter.

Being able to click anywhere on the screen and drag the table also jams me up sometimes. Sometimes it's helpful, but overall I would say it's a nuisance.

A leaderboard with some quality rewards. I understand you're not trying to reward the regular winners with your promotional money, but I think there's a compromise that would work. I would suggest a weekly leaderboard. Lowering the volume that goes into the leaderboard increases the likelihood that amateurs can win/place on a regular basis. Have the winner play the following saturday or sunday against one of your pros for some money/tourney tix and the top 8 play a sng with a pro for some more money/tourney tix. Hell, even throw in some free bets as prizes to promote the other side of your operation, value is value, it doesn't have to be cash.

Much, Much, Much respect for this post Skeptix. Really like your new attitude.

Those functional fixes sound like something that could be resolved. I'll pass it along.

Leaderboards come up again and again - I'll see what I can get.

[QUOTE=TakeEmOut;5837624]

 

Originally Posted by Nate Avenson

playing right now, there is definatly a check/fold button. Not sure what you are refering to.

I know there's a check/fold button, what I'm saying is that u can't click that button until someone bets, so u can't just check after the flop and click check/fold, u have to wait until someone bets. Nobody else has this.. maybe just me. Either way, the check/fold button isn't the same as a fold to any bet button, b/c u have to click it again on the turn/river if everyone checks the flop, which happens way too much on bodog. Ok thanks.

^^^ Not just you.

seriously, bring back any kind of TLB for 2011 and people will def start playing more...the prizes dont even have to be as much as they were...any kind of reload bonuses or some kind of loyalty program, make my points actually worth something...and i like the idea of free sports bets or casino money as prizes too...as far as the ticket system, you should be able to win multiple tickets, and after you win 1, the rest are given in T$...but i think it is fine if the first one is a must play ticket

The functionality of the software is very important, what specifically do you find to be non-functioning?
Selecting the text in the "enter bet" input box, and then entering my bet amount can be frustratingly difficult sometimes. It doesn't always select the text, instead putting the flashing | in the middle of the number default, which has jammed me up numerous times. What would be really awesome is if you could just click on the table and it defaults to the enter bet input, so you don't even need to click it, you just click the table, input bet and hit enter.

Being able to click anywhere on the screen and drag the table also jams me up sometimes. Sometimes it's helpful, but overall I would say it's a nuisance.

The above would be a huge improvement. Also highlight the bigger tournies in the lobby. Somehow I forget to register for the 10k sometimes, it blends in with the 25 sats in the lobby.