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Is Ari's play here +EV? I could never make this play with AJ. Maybe thats why I suck.
pokerstars Game #24516641335: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (100000/200000) - 2009/02/02 1:10:38 ET
Table '135875477 677' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: BodogAri (5435162 in chips)
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (5630499 in chips)
Seat 5: kiaser (2509640 in chips)
Seat 6: scarface_79 (4018364 in chips)
Seat 7: MCLegend (11336702 in chips)
Seat 9: freakypokerd (11681647 in chips)
BodogAri: posts the ante 20000
FRfr1111: posts the ante 20000
kiaser: posts the ante 20000
scarface_79: posts the ante 20000
MCLegend: posts the ante 20000
freakypokerd: posts the ante 20000
FRfr1111: posts small blind 100000
kiaser: posts big blind 200000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
scarface_79: raises 330000 to 530000
MCLegend: folds
freakypokerd: folds
BodogAri: raises 2685162 to 3215162
FRfr1111: folds
kiaser: folds
scarface_79: raises 783202 to 3998364 and is all-in
BodogAri: calls 783202
*** FLOP *** [4d 2d Jh]
*** TURN *** [4d 2d Jh] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [4d 2d Jh Th] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scarface_79: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Aces)
BodogAri: shows [Ac Jc] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
BodogAri collected 8416728 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8416728 | Rake 0
Board [4d 2d Jh Th Ad]
Seat 3: BodogAri (button) showed [Ac Jc] and won (8416728) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kiaser (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: scarface_79 showed [Ks Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: MCLegend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: freakypokerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
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Joined: Apr 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:41am) in reply to luthers son
Scarface opened utg with <20bb so TECHNICALLY he should never be light, or light enough where AJ is profitable but they have played together and they are both HSMTT regs so I doubt either one folds given metagame, situation, etc.
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Joined: Aug 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:42am) in reply to luthers son
His 15bb shove with 35 off into AA was more astounding. The only reason I made this post is cause 35 is my favorite hand and ALWAYS hits for me, so maybe it's similar for BDA? either way, crazy hand on the FT bubble
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Joined: Feb 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:43am) in reply to bdubz9180
it was a 10 BB shove, not 15Originally Posted by bdubz9180
His 15bb shove with 35 off into AA was more astounding. The only reason I made this post is cause 35 is my favorite hand and ALWAYS hits for me, so maybe it's similar for BDA? either way, crazy hand on the FT bubble
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Joined: Oct 08Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:44am) in reply to luthers son
dont forget p5er youjizz
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Joined: Apr 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:46am) in reply to patvoytko
Actually it was 3.5m at 1.25/2.5m so it's really closer to 15...and with 2 bigger stacks behind....even amak said not std. But whatever, seen em do worse.
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Joined: Jul 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:47am) in reply to luthers son
Please keep talking smack on him
pokerstars Game #24517152543: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (150000/300000) - 2009/02/01 22:43:33 PT [2009/02/02 1:43:33 ET]
Table '135875477 677' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (15821304 in chips)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (12659536 in chips)
Seat 3: BodogAri (7016054 in chips)
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (6007971 in chips)
Seat 5: kiaser (4994280 in chips)
Seat 6: Kripp85 (6448664 in chips)
Seat 7: MCLegend (7868062 in chips)
Seat 8: youjizz (4618482 in chips)
Seat 9: freakypokerd (9695647 in chips)
huztlerCrew: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts the ante 30000
BodogAri: posts the ante 30000
FRfr1111: posts the ante 30000
kiaser: posts the ante 30000
Kripp85: posts the ante 30000
MCLegend: posts the ante 30000
youjizz: posts the ante 30000
freakypokerd: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts small blind 150000
BodogAri: posts big blind 300000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
FRfr1111: folds
kiaser: folds
Kripp85: folds
MCLegend: folds
youjizz: folds
freakypokerd: folds
huztlerCrew said, "dsads"
huztlerCrew said, "it is crashed"
huztlerCrew is connected
huztlerCrew: folds
huztlerCrew is sitting out
niuniu09: raises 600000 to 900000
huztlerCrew has returned
BodogAri: raises 2386054 to 3286054
niuniu09: calls 2386054
*** FLOP *** [Td 3c 6c]
niuniu09: checks
BodogAri: bets 481000
niuniu09: raises 8862482 to 9343482 and is all-in
BodogAri: calls 3219000 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5643482) returned to niuniu09
*** TURN *** [Td 3c 6c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3c 6c 7c] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
niuniu09: shows [Ks Qs] (high card King)
BodogAri: shows [6d Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
BodogAri collected 14242108 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14242108 | Rake 0
Board [Td 3c 6c 7c 8h]
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (small blind) showed [Ks Qs] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: BodogAri (big blind) showed [6d Kc] and won (14242108) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: FRfr1111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kiaser folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kripp85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MCLegend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: youjizz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: freakypokerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
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Joined: Aug 08Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:47am) in reply to luthers son
wow, crazy hand
Edit: niuniu's flat was just terrible
pokerstars Game #24517152543: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (150000/300000) - 2009/02/02 1:43:33 ET
Table '135875477 677' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (15821304 in chips)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (12659536 in chips)
Seat 3: BodogAri (7016054 in chips)
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (6007971 in chips)
Seat 5: kiaser (4994280 in chips)
Seat 6: Kripp85 (6448664 in chips)
Seat 7: MCLegend (7868062 in chips)
Seat 8: youjizz (4618482 in chips)
Seat 9: freakypokerd (9695647 in chips)
huztlerCrew: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts the ante 30000
BodogAri: posts the ante 30000
FRfr1111: posts the ante 30000
kiaser: posts the ante 30000
Kripp85: posts the ante 30000
MCLegend: posts the ante 30000
youjizz: posts the ante 30000
freakypokerd: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts small blind 150000
BodogAri: posts big blind 300000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
FRfr1111: folds
kiaser: folds
Kripp85: folds
MCLegend: folds
youjizz: folds
freakypokerd: folds
huztlerCrew said, "dsads"
huztlerCrew said, "it is crashed"
huztlerCrew is connected
huztlerCrew: folds
huztlerCrew is sitting out
niuniu09: raises 600000 to 900000
huztlerCrew has returned
BodogAri: raises 2386054 to 3286054
niuniu09: calls 2386054
*** FLOP *** [Td 3c 6c]
niuniu09: checks
BodogAri: bets 481000
niuniu09: raises 8862482 to 9343482 and is all-in
BodogAri: calls 3219000 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5643482) returned to niuniu09
*** TURN *** [Td 3c 6c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3c 6c 7c] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
niuniu09: shows [Ks Qs] (high card King)
BodogAri: shows [6d Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
BodogAri collected 14242108 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14242108 | Rake 0
Board [Td 3c 6c 7c 8h]
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (small blind) showed [Ks Qs] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: BodogAri (big blind) showed [6d Kc] and won (14242108) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: FRfr1111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kiaser folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kripp85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MCLegend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: youjizz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: freakypokerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
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Joined: Aug 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:47am) in reply to threeven
someone in the chat said 10, and someone corrected with *15... wasn't sure which was correct. I'd like to see the HHOriginally Posted by threeven
it was a 10 BB shove, not 15Originally Posted by bdubz9180
His 15bb shove with 35 off into AA was more astounding. The only reason I made this post is cause 35 is my favorite hand and ALWAYS hits for me, so maybe it's similar for BDA? either way, crazy hand on the FT bubble
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Joined: Jan 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:47am) in reply to luthers son
i dont understand three even's comment. because they are 6 handed AJ somehow becomes a monster versus an utg raiser who has likely pot committed himself preflop?
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Joined: Mar 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:48am) in reply to luthers son
I think its pretty impossible to play a tourney of this size and make it that deep without getting lucky at least once.
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Joined: Jul 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:49am) in reply to bef99hwk
You said that on the rail and you said it again here but if you look at the HH, it was 2.6 mill @ 125k/250k. Not sure how that = 15bbsOriginally Posted by bef99hwk
Actually it was 3.5m at 1.25/2.5m so it's really closer to 15...and with 2 bigger stacks behind....even amak said not std. But whatever, seen em do worse.
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pokerstars Game #24516935563: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (125000/250000) - 2009/02/01 23:29:14 MT [2009/02/02 1:29:14 ET]
Table '135875477 677' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: BodogAri (2673027 in chips)
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (10105998 in chips)
Seat 5: kiaser (4289280 in chips)
Seat 7: MCLegend (7828062 in chips)
Seat 9: freakypokerd (15715647 in chips)
BodogAri: posts the ante 25000
FRfr1111: posts the ante 25000
kiaser: posts the ante 25000
MCLegend: posts the ante 25000
freakypokerd: posts the ante 25000
kiaser: posts small blind 125000
MCLegend: posts big blind 250000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
freakypokerd: folds
BodogAri: raises 2298027 to 2548027
FRfr1111: raises 2298027 to 4846054
kiaser: folds
MCLegend: folds
BodogAri: calls 100000 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2198027) returned to FRfr1111
*** FLOP *** [4s 5d Kh]
*** TURN *** [4s 5d Kh] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4s 5d Kh 3c] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BodogAri: shows [3h 5s] (two pair, Fives and Threes)
FRfr1111: shows [Ah Ad] (a pair of Aces)
BodogAri collected 5796054 from pot
FRfr1111 said, "freakl"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5796054 | Rake 0
Board [4s 5d Kh 3c 9h]
Seat 3: BodogAri showed [3h 5s] and won (5796054) with two pair, Fives and Threes
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (button) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: kiaser (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MCLegend (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: freakypokerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
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Joined: Aug 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:50am) in reply to AFink93
I wasn't talking smack... hope that directed towards the op. I have made similar or worse plays with 35, and the flop seems to always drop A24
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Joined: Feb 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:51am) in reply to luthers son
how is scarface pot commited?Originally Posted by luthers son
i dont understand three even's comment. because they are 6 handed AJ somehow becomes a monster versus an utg raiser who has likely pot committed himself preflop?
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Joined: Jul 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:51am) in reply to bdubz9180
OP obvOriginally Posted by bdubz9180
I wasn't talking smack... hope that directed towards the op. I have made similar or worse plays with 35, and the flop seems to always drop A24
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Joined: Aug 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:52am) in reply to threeven
with 10 bb's, it's more std. you wait for any pair, broadway cards, or your superstitious lucky hand lol.
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Joined: Apr 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:53am) in reply to bdubz9180
Anyone know who the 0/7 mtter is yet? Cash player? MA? what?
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Joined: Jan 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:54am) in reply to luthers son
he starts the hand with 4million and he puts in 530k to open the pot. do know many competent players who are folding at that point.
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Joined: Aug 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:55am) in reply to bef99hwk
some lucky dbag playing his 8th MTT ?Originally Posted by bef99hwk
Anyone know who the 0/7 mtter is yet? Cash player? MA? what?
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Joined: Jan 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:55am) in reply to luthers son
sorry. meant to say i DO NOT know many competent players who are folding at that point.
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Joined: Mar 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:56am) in reply to luthers son
Thats only 12% of his stack I think. Im sure I could find a fold in the right spot.
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Joined: Jan 05Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:56am) in reply to luthers son
It's kind of a situation where you can't really, flat, you don't want to fold so you, say F it, I'm God, and even if he calls and I'm behind I'm gonna win.
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Joined: Feb 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 1:05am) in reply to luthers son
well, if he expects the other players to snap fold AJ to a single raise, then it would be extremely profitable for him to raise/fold UTG here with junkOriginally Posted by luthers son
he starts the hand with 4million and he puts in 530k to open the pot. do know many competent players who are folding at that point.
the bottom line is scarface doesn't have to fold much at all for this to be a +EV play, and I think saying that scarface is NEVER going to raise/fold here is pretty retarded -
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Joined: Jan 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 1:27am) in reply to luthers son
fair enough three. your results speak for themselves. maybe you experts have it right. maybe AJ really is a monster.
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Joined: Nov 07Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 2:57am) in reply to luthers son
lolol i <3 u sirOriginally Posted by luthers son
fair enough three. your results speak for themselves. maybe you experts have it right. maybe AJ really is a monster.
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Joined: Jul 06Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 3:17am) in reply to moody88
actually he played it perfect but ur blind LOL WOWOriginally Posted by moody88
wow, crazy hand
Edit: niuniu's flat was just terrible
pokerstars Game #24517152543: Tournament #135875477, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIV (150000/300000) - 2009/02/02 1:43:33 ET
Table '135875477 677' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (15821304 in chips)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (12659536 in chips)
Seat 3: BodogAri (7016054 in chips)
Seat 4: FRfr1111 (6007971 in chips)
Seat 5: kiaser (4994280 in chips)
Seat 6: Kripp85 (6448664 in chips)
Seat 7: MCLegend (7868062 in chips)
Seat 8: youjizz (4618482 in chips)
Seat 9: freakypokerd (9695647 in chips)
huztlerCrew: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts the ante 30000
BodogAri: posts the ante 30000
FRfr1111: posts the ante 30000
kiaser: posts the ante 30000
Kripp85: posts the ante 30000
MCLegend: posts the ante 30000
youjizz: posts the ante 30000
freakypokerd: posts the ante 30000
niuniu09: posts small blind 150000
BodogAri: posts big blind 300000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
FRfr1111: folds
kiaser: folds
Kripp85: folds
MCLegend: folds
youjizz: folds
freakypokerd: folds
huztlerCrew said, "dsads"
huztlerCrew said, "it is crashed"
huztlerCrew is connected
huztlerCrew: folds
huztlerCrew is sitting out
niuniu09: raises 600000 to 900000
huztlerCrew has returned
BodogAri: raises 2386054 to 3286054
niuniu09: calls 2386054
*** FLOP *** [Td 3c 6c]
niuniu09: checks
BodogAri: bets 481000
niuniu09: raises 8862482 to 9343482 and is all-in
BodogAri: calls 3219000 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5643482) returned to niuniu09
*** TURN *** [Td 3c 6c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3c 6c 7c] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
niuniu09: shows [Ks Qs] (high card King)
BodogAri: shows [6d Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
BodogAri collected 14242108 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14242108 | Rake 0
Board [Td 3c 6c 7c 8h]
Seat 1: huztlerCrew (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: niuniu09 (small blind) showed [Ks Qs] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: BodogAri (big blind) showed [6d Kc] and won (14242108) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: FRfr1111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kiaser folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Kripp85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MCLegend folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: youjizz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: freakypokerd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Thanks to my boy @BigRiskky I got a piece of his team w arieh/Bach been fun listening to the draft wish I was there. Iiking our team!
the_ONM
2012-05-26 18:05:13
Playing it by ear. Might go play some $2/$5. Really tired from all dat at buckeye lake but dont feel like spending sat night at home.
jesswelman
2012-05-26 18:05:00
Love this reporting gig. Starting my day b/w a Mad Man and the Pope http://t.co/KuwZlRbx
brianchastings
2012-05-26 18:03:57
#hustled RT @QuadJacksDotCom: SOLD: @brianchastings for 17 to @EugeneKatchalov #25kdraft http://t.co/TJFom5Bw WATCH LIVE
ppapoker
2012-05-26 18:00:21
Send us a photo of your Live and Let Grind shirt this weekend and we'll send you a PPA shirt. http://t.co/eAmgTqZ2 #Poker
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