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  1. Armpit Magoo Armpit Magoo is offline

    MI
    United States

    Posts: 62
    Joined: Feb 07

    Jul 12th, 2009 (7/12/2009 12:27pm)

    I have the hardest time with bottom two pair especially deep stacked.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #13346403726: $14,000 Guarantee (98704711), Table 16 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:42:47 ET - 2009/07/12
    Seat 1: TrikStir (2,210)
    Seat 2: Atom-9 (5,195)
    Seat 3: BRECHSTANGE (5,530)
    Seat 4: alexpref (3,182)
    Seat 5: ALLOFIT29 (12,260)
    Seat 6: wookie overlord (7,300)
    Seat 7: JesusFreak78CH (11,015)
    Seat 8: HebeyJuan (9,950)
    Seat 9: EalanC (9,575)
    HebeyJuan posts the small blind of 100
    EalanC posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HebeyJuan [3h 4d]
    TrikStir has 15 seconds left to act
    TrikStir folds
    Atom-9 folds
    BRECHSTANGE folds
    alexpref folds
    ALLOFIT29 folds
    wookie overlord has 15 seconds left to act
    wookie overlord folds
    JesusFreak78CH folds
    HebeyJuan calls 100
    EalanC checks
    *** FLOP *** [Jc 4s 3d]
    HebeyJuan checks
    EalanC bets 200
    HebeyJuan raises to 600
    EalanC calls 400
    *** TURN *** [Jc 4s 3d] [8h]
    HebeyJuan checks
    EalanC bets 1,000
    HebeyJuan raises to 2,800
    EalanC raises to 8,775, and is all in
    HebeyJuan calls 5,975
    EalanC shows [3s 8c]
    HebeyJuan shows [3h 4d]
    *** RIVER *** [Jc 4s 3d 8h] [Kc]
    EalanC shows two pair, Eights and Threes
    HebeyJuan shows two pair, Fours and Threes
    EalanC wins the pot (19,150) with two pair, Eights and Threes
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 19,150 | Rake 0
    Board: [Jc 4s 3d 8h Kc]
    Seat 1: TrikStir didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: Atom-9 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: BRECHSTANGE didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: alexpref didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: ALLOFIT29 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: wookie overlord didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: JesusFreak78CH (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: HebeyJuan (small blind) showed [3h 4d] and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes
    Seat 9: EalanC (big blind) showed [3s 8c] and won (19,150) with two pair, Eights and Threes

    pokerstars Game #30376986826: Tournament #176962319, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/07/12 12:18:13 ET
    Table '176962319 13' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: doktor007 (3590 in chips)
    Seat 2: DaDonkeyDonk (5165 in chips)
    Seat 3: dewman15 (4640 in chips)
    Seat 4: sweetiemomo (2280 in chips)
    Seat 5: thokke (1200 in chips)
    Seat 6: R0Y.uk (3000 in chips)
    Seat 7: tremvito (3515 in chips)
    Seat 8: ramon123456 (2900 in chips)
    Seat 9: stigh1 (3760 in chips)
    doktor007: posts small blind 15
    DaDonkeyDonk: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DaDonkeyDonk [4h 6c]
    dewman15: folds
    sweetiemomo: folds
    thokke: folds
    R0Y.uk: folds
    tremvito: folds
    ramon123456: folds
    stigh1: folds
    doktor007: calls 15
    DaDonkeyDonk: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ks 4c 7c]
    doktor007: bets 60
    DaDonkeyDonk: raises 120 to 180
    doktor007: calls 120
    *** TURN *** [Ks 4c 7c] [6h]
    doktor007: checks
    DaDonkeyDonk: bets 180
    doktor007: raises 390 to 570
    DaDonkeyDonk: calls 390
    *** RIVER *** [Ks 4c 7c 6h] [Th]
    doktor007: bets 1470
    DaDonkeyDonk: calls 1470
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    doktor007: shows [2h 2s] (a pair of Deuces)
    DaDonkeyDonk: shows [4h 6c] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
    DaDonkeyDonk collected 4500 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4500 | Rake 0
    Board [Ks 4c 7c 6h Th]
    Seat 1: doktor007 (small blind) showed [2h 2s] and lost with a pair of Deuces
    Seat 2: DaDonkeyDonk (big blind) showed [4h 6c] and won (4500) with two pair, Sixes and Fours
    Seat 3: dewman15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: sweetiemomo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: thokke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: R0Y.uk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: tremvito folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: ramon123456 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: stigh1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

    Greenville, MS
    United States

    Posts: 1,998
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    Jul 12th, 2009 (7/12/2009 11:55pm) in reply to Armpit Magoo

    A lot of how you play is player/opponent dependent.

    If you insist on playing junky cards, you must be good at post flop play and reading your opponents.

    HebeyJuan [3h 4d] posts the small blind of 100. First mistake: Playing a hand OOP and calling. If you want to play this hand and represent something, you should raise pre-flop and steal the blinds. If you get called, you can legitimately represent strength on the flop and take it down. If you go to the river with this hand, you have a bluff catcher. You go crazy and get it all in with a loser.

    You have a bluff catcher on the second hand and are lucky to win. Again, player/opponent dependent read.

    Looks like you are playing cards.
  3. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

    Amsterdam
    Netherlands

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    Joined: Nov 07

    Jul 13th, 2009 (7/13/2009 12:32pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

     
    Originally Posted by MYBLUEDOG View Post

    If you insist on playing junky cards, you must be good at post flop play and reading your opponents.

    ^^this. If you don't like playing bottom 2 pair then fold hands like 34o. You won't hit a straight every time.
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