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Busted with Aces

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  1. DeLime DeLime is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2010 (6/9/2010 8:00pm)

    Marx Ivory is aggressive but since everyone's folding I don't have much of a read on his range

    Full Tilt Poker Game #21490666364: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (165525284), Table 16 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:48:36 ET - 2010/06/09
    Seat 1: upay2buymymilk (11,500)
    Seat 2: bballten (6,340)
    Seat 3: matt57225 (9,340)
    Seat 4: redrosh91 (5,510)
    Seat 5: Specunder (2,049)
    Seat 6: DeLime (7,505)
    Seat 7: Marx Ivory (10,010)
    Seat 8: nobbzter (6,055)
    Seat 9: aleks russi (2,700)
    Marx Ivory posts the small blind of 100
    nobbzter posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DeLime [Ah Ad]
    aleks russi folds
    upay2buymymilk folds
    bballten folds
    matt57225 folds
    redrosh91 folds
    Specunder folds
    DeLime calls 200
    Marx Ivory raises to 600
    nobbzter folds
    DeLime has 15 seconds left to act
    DeLime calls 400
    *** FLOP *** [Qs Kh 4s]
    Marx Ivory bets 1,400
    DeLime raises to 3,000
    Marx Ivory raises to 9,410, and is all in
    DeLime calls 3,905, and is all in
    Marx Ivory shows [Qh Qc]
    DeLime shows [Ah Ad]
    Uncalled bet of 2,505 returned to Marx Ivory
    *** TURN *** [Qs Kh 4s] [3d]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs Kh 4s 3d] [9h]
    Marx Ivory shows three of a kind, Queens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 15,210 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qs Kh 4s 3d 9h]
    Seat 1: upay2buymymilk didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: bballten didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: matt57225 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: redrosh91 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Specunder didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: DeLime (button) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 7: Marx Ivory (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and won (15,210) with three of a kind, Queens
    Seat 8: nobbzter (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: aleks russi didn't bet (folded)

    I guess I put him on Q or K w/ a high kicker. Could I get someone to go through the thought process that should have made me either win this hand or pull out while I still could?
  2. giveakshun giveakshun is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2010 (6/9/2010 8:26pm) in reply to DeLime

    you couldnt have played this hand any better, you just got ul.
    your not putting him on queens cuz he didnt 3bet you pre,
    secondly if he raises you on this particular flop i guess theres a chance
    that MAYBE he has a set or twopair, given that he knows ur range could be
    aces ak or kq so taking that into consideration you can make a sick fold
    .. personally i wouldnt fold in this spot here just because he could have a weaker king and
    be trying to raise me out of the pot..
  3. Coach_Bombay33 Coach_Bombay33 is offline

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    Jun 10th, 2010 (6/10/2010 1:16am) in reply to giveakshun

    Marx couldn't 3bet preflop because he was the initial raiser. OP could have 3bet preflop and didn't which I think was your mistake. I don't like flatting here. If villian is aggro and doesn't fold much preflop why not build a big pot with the nuts preflop? You can make an arguement on flatting here and extracting value post flop from your aggro opponent but personally I like 3betting here.
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    Jun 10th, 2010 (6/10/2010 4:21am) in reply to Coach_Bombay33

    I agree with 3 betting preflop but I think this hand ends the same way even if you do 3 bet, unless you are discipline enough / have a sick read to think that he called the 3 bet with KK or QQ and not AK or AQ
  5. Coach_Bombay33 Coach_Bombay33 is offline

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    Jun 10th, 2010 (6/10/2010 5:22am) in reply to hurron

    Yeah for sure unlucky for OP villian flopped a set
  6. DeLime DeLime is offline

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    Jun 10th, 2010 (6/10/2010 8:42am) in reply to Coach_Bombay33

    Ok, so the I gather the 3 bet would have been a good move (even though I doubt he's folding Queens, villian would most prob shove all in).

    There's just one thing I hate with Aces (and with Kings btw); it's when the whole table folds pre flop even when you just called the BB or made a min-raise...damn that gets on my nerves during big MTT's when I drastically need to be building up my stack. I guess that's why I flat called his pre-flop raise...
    Edited By: DeLime Jun 10th, 2010 at 04:04 PM
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  7. Coach_Bombay33 Coach_Bombay33 is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2010 (6/11/2010 6:21am) in reply to DeLime

     
    Originally Posted by DeLime View Post

    (even though I doubt he's folding Queens, villian would most prob shove all in).

    .

    This is obviously what you want.
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    Jun 14th, 2010 (6/14/2010 11:37pm) in reply to Coach_Bombay33

    oops my bad i meant to say that hero should 3bet pre and obv villain could shove which is what we
    want, we want to get action from worst sooooo....
    if villain shoves his queens to your 3bet (thats if you 3betpre) then that is the correct play,
    results are irrelevant. you got it in as a huge favorite , what more can you ask for?
    you just got ul
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