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call bb all in? Discuss If fold why?

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  1. poker763 poker763 is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 12:16pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #29150443573: $18,000 Guarantee (226496866), Table 70 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:47:25 ET - 2011/03/19
    Seat 1: gorguts666 (13,516)
    Seat 2: OutKasts (7,025)
    Seat 3: cottonbud (11,260)
    Seat 4: I Rail For Tips (4,629)
    Seat 5: MR ROYAL 007 (5,822)
    Seat 6: WDCM88 (3,030), is sitting out
    Seat 7: lolik88 (4,155)
    Seat 8: KyleDob (10,094)
    Seat 9: hairboss (2,818)
    KyleDob posts the small blind of 80
    hairboss posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to OutKasts [Ah Js]
    gorguts666 folds
    OutKasts raises to 480
    cottonbud folds
    I Rail For Tips folds
    MR ROYAL 007 folds
    WDCM88 folds
    lolik88 folds
    KyleDob folds
    hairboss raises to 2,818, and is all in
    OutKasts ?????
  2. bashalane bashalane is online now

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 1:22pm) in reply to poker763

    hard to say without reads on this one.... dont know why u held onto it so long either

    but probably call
  3. elusively elusively is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 2:10pm) in reply to bashalane

    -you need 40% to breakeven here
    -you have 32% vs. 77+/AQ+

    -open smaller pre
    -consider open folding AJo from +1 pre-ante, unless ppl are just flatting and playing passively postflop
    Edited By: elusively Oct 1st, 2011 at 02:11 PM
  4. PeaceGotAces PeaceGotAces is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 2:32pm) in reply to elusively

     
    Originally Posted by elusively View Post

    -you need 40% to breakeven here
    -you have 32% vs. 77+/AQ+

    -open smaller pre
    -consider open folding AJo from +1 pre-ante, unless ppl are just flatting and playing passively postflop

    This, except 77+, AQ+ is too tight. Either way it's going to bed a fold. With the BB that short, he's not flatting you and playing oop he's shoving or folding. I'm just open folding...you're only getting flatted by someone who has position on you .
  5. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 3:05pm) in reply to PeaceGotAces

    This is why I hate playing AJ to an early raise here. Not sure what the buy in here, but if it's in the $10 or under, it's really hard to accurately range here. Is he going to raise with weak aces? Some people do, some don't (and sometimes if someone is card dead, you think they are tight and aren't). Problem is, hands like KQ play ok, and pairs are ahead. So, how often is it AK and AQ vs A10 and below? I'm folding here all the time, but that's why you can't raise here originally.

    The only way it makes sense to raise here is if your sure you can call this sort of push.
  6. ukaliks ukaliks is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2011 (10/1/2011 9:35pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    Wow a FT HH from march. Must of been digging through the HH...
    As played i'd fold. His stack is short but it can take a chunk out of us. Would be good to know more info like is it near the bubble/have you been playing tight/hows the table playing etc.
    Also in EP w/ a hand that can give you head aches and that stack i'm only going to raise this no more than 2.25xBB.
  7. Poker Orifice Poker Orifice is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2011 (10/2/2011 6:03am) in reply to ukaliks

    Villain shoves over an EP raise.
    FOLD! (< does it need an explanation?.. really?)
    From a cEV perspective we need ~45% here & AJo only has 35% vs 22+AJ+ we have 37%

    Question: what was our plan when we raised pre? Typically don't ya look ahead at potential resteal stacks & have a plan for who you'll be calling if shoved back on?
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