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  1. DKLA DKLA is offline

    Los Angeles, CA
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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 12:48am)

    Dont know anything about the player and only played 20 hands with him and havent noticed him do anything stupid....should i be calling or folding here?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #14706510024: MiniFTOPS Event #12 (97435443), Table 82 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:37:34 ET - 2009/09/15

    Seat 1: byoonz (27,410)

    Seat 2: DKLA (33,591)

    Seat 3: Pankler (33,451)

    Seat 4: SPARTAK111 (27,261)

    Seat 5: nsfellow (10,506)

    Seat 6: TO-NO-MERCY (26,959)

    Seat 7: bedinx (24,842)

    Seat 8: rivermonkee666 (21,384)

    Seat 9: donkeybonez (58,205)

    byoonz antes 100

    DKLA antes 100

    Pankler antes 100

    SPARTAK111 antes 100

    nsfellow antes 100

    TO-NO-MERCY antes 100

    bedinx antes 100

    rivermonkee666 antes 100

    donkeybonez antes 100

    TO-NO-MERCY posts the small blind of 400

    bedinx posts the big blind of 800

    The button is in seat #5

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to DKLA [Kh As]

    rivermonkee666 folds

    donkeybonez folds

    byoonz folds

    DKLA has 15 seconds left to act

    DKLA raises to 2,105

    Pankler folds

    SPARTAK111 calls 2,105

    nsfellow folds

    TO-NO-MERCY has 15 seconds left to act

    TO-NO-MERCY folds

    bedinx calls 1,305

    *** FLOP *** [Js 9c Kc]

    bedinx checks

    DKLA has 15 seconds left to act

    DKLA bets 4,850

    SPARTAK111 folds

    bedinx raises to 22,637, and is all in

    DKLA has 15 seconds left to act

    DKLA has requested TIME

    DKLA ????
     
  2. Itghtuhadkk Itghtuhadkk is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 12:55am) in reply to DKLA

    i fold..ur left with 34ish?bb...more then managable...doubt he ever shoves a worse king...it looks like 2 pair more then anything else to me but im high so dont quote me.....obv could be playing huge draw like this but doibt that too...who knows..but i fold
  3. rainmanrcp rainmanrcp is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 1:02am) in reply to DKLA

    Either hes protecting a flopped straight from a flush getting drawn out, or hes semi bluffing with AcXc?
  4. allin4flush allin4flush is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 1:38am) in reply to DKLA

    I'd like to think I'd lay that one down. It's tempting to think the guy is on a flush draw or a bluff, but since I know nothing about that player other than that he was unremarkable, I'd wait for a better spot. But it's close, if you had 5000 less chips I think you'd have to call.

    Hope you went into this hand in a good mood, this sort of thing always eats at me if I am having a rough night.
  5. threeven threeven is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 1:47am) in reply to DKLA

    so

    many

    draws
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  6. Pick6man Pick6man is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 2:21am) in reply to DKLA

    Did you scope/db him? Look at the last 20 hands? He completed from the BB and now he is check/raising all in here. Is he a reg? does he play a lot? what stakes? profitable/losing player? Sure it is one pair but man how many times have you seen the draw type of hands shove in these spots? Sick spot but too many draws to just fold that easy.
     
  7. Illini213 Illini213 is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 2:49am) in reply to DKLA

    Hell of a tough spot, especially in this trny... I think theres a very good chance hes on some sort of big draw, like A10cc or something of that nature. I also think it's a possibility he has 99 or KJ by how you described him. KQ maybe, but I think more likely you're up against a big draw.

    I slightly lean towards call, might be a leak in my game.. I'm like 60/40 call/fold
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  8. blizair blizair is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 3:47am) in reply to DKLA

    i really don't even see why u bet the flop here.
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  9. d7o1d1s0 d7o1d1s0 is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 6:11am) in reply to blizair

     
    Originally Posted by blizair View Post

    i really don't even see why u bet the flop here.

    wow, thats a pretty interesting shout. i suppose betting here does not get a fold from a lot of hands, fair enough value from weak draws (J10 etc), but it does leave you vulnerable to spots like this. I would definately raise TPTK without blinking, but the check is quite an interesting idea. As played, you are beaten by K9, J9 and QT, which are all pretty firmly in his SB completing range (maybe even 99 aswel). I think this is a very tough fold, but you still have plenty chips and don't want to find yourself with 5 outs or worse for such a huge pot.

    EDIT: with another player still to act behind aswel, think this has to be folded
  10. DKLA DKLA is offline

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    Sep 15th, 2009 (9/15/2009 11:34am) in reply to d7o1d1s0

    Thanks for the responses, I looked him up afterwards and villian has an average buyin of 9 bucks. I ended up folding cause I feel there is more that beats me then I beat. Bliz, when I bet I felt I could have bet less but a check didnt really cross my mind. How do you procede after you check?
     
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