pokerstars Game #49013915846: Tournament #328011043, $300+$20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (3500/7000) - 2010/09/02 4:25:43 ET
Table '328011043 84' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Calvin32 (149672 in chips)
Seat 3: p0cket00 (452342 in chips)
Seat 5: stankee1 (195901 in chips)
Seat 6: nollidK (927802 in chips)
Seat 7: Z06LUVR (551630 in chips)
Seat 9: Mills23 (416653 in chips)
Calvin32: posts the ante 700
p0cket00: posts the ante 700
stankee1: posts the ante 700
nollidK: posts the ante 700
Z06LUVR: posts the ante 700
Mills23: posts the ante 700
Mills23: posts small blind 3500
Calvin32: posts big blind 7000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to p0cket00 [3c Jc]
p0cket00: raises 9150 to 16150
stankee1: calls 16150
nollidK: calls 16150
Z06LUVR: folds
Mills23: folds
Calvin32: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh 7d 3h]
p0cket00: bets 33600
stankee1: raises 145451 to 179051 and is all-in
nollidK: raises 730949 to 910000
p0cket00:

Anyways guys I cant find the rest of the hand history, but I called and stankee had AJ and nollid had 77. Thanks for everyone's replies and after thinking through the hand again and the replies in this thread I almost wanna say this is a fairly easy fold.

With that much action I can see how you would get that sinking OFFS feeling in your stomach. I think it's very close but ultimately a sick cooler.

i would fold....

wish i hadnt seen results but i wouldve put stankee on AA or KK here very often

and then with the over shove i would have to assume best case scenario for you would be an AJ sort of hand which is unlikely or a big draw.....either way your not in terrific shape for your tournament life in a 3 handed allin vs a possible overpair and huge draw.......also the possibility of being dead already doesnt help

enless previous reads tell you otherwise

 

Originally Posted by bonflizubi

dude remove results!

and secondly, when nolid reshoves.. is he ever just iso- shipping light there? You are still sitting on what over 50bb if you fold?

good point, i removed the results.

at the time i just thought sick cooler, but i think it depends if aj is in his reiso range or not, if not then his hands are combo draws like 89hh t9hh or sets, u are like 60/40 vs the combo draws and like 6/94 vs the sets or whatever, so either slightly ahead or way behind

if aj is in his range or even kj then its most def a call

did he take a while to act or did he instajamm, if he has aj or kj he obv has to take a moment to evaluate the hand and decide weather to jamm here or not with the action in front, whereas with 77 or 33 he is just thinking weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lets get it in, he may hollywood and take a moment to jam his chips but if he doesnt maybe u can pick that off and make a sick laydown.

 

Originally Posted by maxxscam

if aj is in his range or even kj then its most def a call

AA,KK,QQ could also be in here if he is a ninja.

i'm not good enough to fold here :(.... but i think i'd reallyyyy want to.

you're crushing stankee's AA/KK obv (which is prob 98% of his range pre i'm assuming). nollid is 3betting QQ+/AKhh pre like 100% of the time prob... so it depends on what you think nollid is doing pre w/ hands like AQhh/AThh/T9hh/98hh (think he's folding the last 3 most of the time), and also JJ. i don't know his game very well other than that he's pretty good and probably solid (rly not sure what he does w/ good but not gr8 hands like AQhh/JJ pre... if I had to guess i'd say flat a lot, but that could be wrong). Honestly think his range is way tighter than a lot of people would assume here... just ridic that you crushed this flop so hard.

AQhh, A7hh, and 77 is all I see, looks like a fold not sure if I would be able to make it at this point :(

 

Originally Posted by shanetrain22

i'm not good enough to fold here :(.... but i think i'd reallyyyy want to.

you're crushing stankee's AA/KK obv (which is prob 98% of his range pre i'm assuming). nollid is 3betting QQ+/AKhh pre like 100% of the time prob... so it depends on what you think nollid is doing pre w/ hands like AQhh/AThh/T9hh/98hh (think he's folding the last 3 most of the time), and also JJ. i don't know his game very well other than that he's pretty good and probably solid (rly not sure what he does w/ good but not gr8 hands like AQhh/JJ pre... if I had to guess i'd say flat a lot, but that could be wrong). Honestly think his range is way tighter than a lot of people would assume here... just ridic that you crushed this flop so hard.

^^^

I would snap call and go cry to mommy if I lost. But no way do I think im behind their range here.

yeah very sick hand thats for sure. Those saying KJ and AJ are my range are lol wrong. Really thought Stankee had AA/KK, so yeah i fold if im you p0ckets =/

tough spot..... i like theflop lead. do we have any reads.... I know stankee1 is blueberleez real good solid player. I think I like b/f here for a few reasons including icm

GET THERE

If it's so obv that both OP and nollie knows stankee has AA/KK, then lets assume this happened (if it was possible):

Lets say OP bet, and stankee pushes, and before nollie acts, stankee turns over his cards, and both players left see that they are AA. Then, knowing this, nollie shoves over the top (getting a little under 2:1 in odds on calling stankee). What should OP do with J3? Nollie doesn't really have good enough odds to draw to just a flush, but if he has hands likeTh8h, or 7hxh, then it's worth it.

Let's assume nollie doesn't play 73, now all the hands you beat (combo draws), you're flipping against, and the hands that have you beat have you crushed (sets and J7). If all the stuff we (I) assumed is true, then now this becomes a very easy fold.
Board: Jh 7d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.316% 12.32% 00.00% 11010 0.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 54.824% 54.82% 00.01% 49005 6.00 { JJ, 77, 33, Ah7h, J7s, Th9h, Th8h, Th7h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 8h7h, 7h6h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h }
Hand 2: 32.860% 32.85% 00.01% 29370 6.00 { Jc3c }

woow what a sick hand...tbh i really dont knwo what i would have done in game
and usually when its really marginal i see myself folding..
but its so sick cause JJJ and 333 are so higly unlikely since we have one of these.
we prolly have the raiser who could have AJ,QQ+ but the shover has to have a combo draw, set or J7 if thats in his pre range...
jezzzz idk i prolly fold