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Call or fold here? Any advice appreciated

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  1. Montaniel Montaniel is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 11:47pm)

    This is a $10 rebuy with about 70 left.



    ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (party)
    Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 29, 06:16:05 ET 2012
    Table 10000 Gtd Rebuy (2495948) Table 3 (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 6: Hero ( $99081.00 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 4.3, Hands: 2917
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $38912.00 USD ) - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $25099.00 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, Hands: 90
    Seat 9: Player9 ( $31239.00 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 0.0, Hands: 89
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $53026.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 13, AF: 1.0, Hands: 56
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $11696.00 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 5, AF: 2.0, Hands: 85
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $133018.00 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 19, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 26
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $57735.00 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 161
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $93093.00 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 9, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $14704.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 11, AF: 0.0, Hands: 71
    Player10 posts small blind [$1000.00 USD].
    Player1 posts big blind [$2000.00 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ Ts Td ]
    Hero posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player4 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player3 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player9 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player10 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player1 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player2 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player7 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player8 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player5 posts ante of [$200.00 USD].
    Player2 folds
    Player3 folds
    Player4 folds
    Player5 folds
    Hero raises [$4200.00 USD]
    Player7 folds
    Player8 folds
    Player9 folds
    Player10 raises [$51826.00 USD]
    Player1 folds
    Hero calls [$48626.00 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 2c, As ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
    Hero shows [Ts, Td ]
    Player10 shows [Ac, Qc ]
    Player10 wins $109652.00 USD from main pot
  2. djdoodoo djdoodoo is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 12:19am) in reply to Montaniel

    I'd probably chuck it up tbh. His 25bb jam is more indicative of a lower pair than AA or KK or 2 high cards but you could easily be beat. I'd rather wait for a better spot than risk half my stack with TT here.
  3. Squish89 Squish89 is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 12:21am) in reply to djdoodoo

    I think I call here given that it looks like he's been reshoving a bit from his 13% 3 bet, he's definitely going to be shoving wide enough here to make this easily profitable I would say. I think he makes the same play with 88+ maybe 7s too, then obv like ATs/AJ+? I don't think he plays AA or KK like this maybe not Queens either? So that would leave one over pair making it you dominate or are flipping most of the time.

    You just got unlucky and didn't win the race, but I think the call is correct. I guess there could be an argument for folding here based on the fact that it's half your stack and if you lose then you have much less room to manoeuvre.
    Edited By: Squish89 Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:26 AM
  4. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 1:09pm) in reply to Squish89

    This isn't the best spot in the world but I agree with the call. Reason it is not that exciting is he is jamming with 25bbs which is a bit too big for a resteal stack, which probably indicates it is near the top of his range but not QQ or better. AK, AQ are definately in his range and probably 77-99 as well, JJ-QQ are such as small part of his range and AA-KK almost never show up here. so it's a call.
  5. djdoodoo djdoodoo is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 5:57pm) in reply to Sagacious Man

    From what I gather from the responses here, it just depends on if you want to be a bit tighter or not? I still think I'm folding here because I don't feel like I need to coinflip at this stage in the tournament.
  6. Squish89 Squish89 is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 6:10pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    If his 3bet % was much lower say between 3 and 5% then I think there's a good argument for folding but when it's as high as it is(granted only 56 hands, but should be enough of an idea for a tourney) then I think he is shoving to many hands for this to be an -ev call.
  7. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 11:20pm) in reply to Squish89

    I definetly feel this is a call. as squish said his 3b numbers only reinforce the fact that this is generally going to be a profitable call. In my expirience most people are not just going to smash 25bbs into the pot with AA or KK like this so I would say that rates his range even more favorably. I also believe you may want to rethink your idea about "not needing to take a coinflip at this stage in the tournament" with 70 people left risking half your stack to be vaulted up to a huge stack seems like a very good prospect to me. Regardless I think you are doing very well versus his range which makes this spot better than a coinflip.
     
  8. Montaniel Montaniel is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 4:48pm) in reply to P33J

    Thanks for the input guys its appreciated.
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