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  1. THE_ALPACA THE_ALPACA is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 6:03pm)

    $75 sat. into 1k wpt sat. prolly should of raised turn

    Full Tilt Poker Game #17417716393: Thursday WPT Satellite (127121826), Table 3 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:50:25 ET - 2010/01/07
    Seat 1: THE_TRASHMAN (4,070)
    Seat 4: Flipsen_PT (2,756)
    Seat 5: skater3598 (600)
    Seat 6: gravymaker595 (2,080)
    Seat 7: Steve Zolotow (4,760)
    Seat 8: FrisBM3 (2,616)
    Seat 9: BostonWolfpack (1,770)
    gravymaker595 posts the small blind of 80
    Steve Zolotow posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to THE_TRASHMAN [Jh Ad]
    FrisBM3 folds
    BostonWolfpack has 15 seconds left to act
    BostonWolfpack folds
    THE_TRASHMAN has 15 seconds left to act
    THE_TRASHMAN raises to 385
    Flipsen_PT folds
    skater3598 folds
    gravymaker595 folds
    Steve Zolotow has 15 seconds left to act
    Steve Zolotow calls 225
    *** FLOP *** [2s Jd Qd]
    Steve Zolotow checks
    THE_TRASHMAN checks
    *** TURN *** [2s Jd Qd] [Jc]
    Steve Zolotow has 15 seconds left to act
    Steve Zolotow bets 666
    THE_TRASHMAN calls 666
    *** RIVER *** [2s Jd Qd Jc] [Tc]
    Steve Zolotow has 15 seconds left to act
    Steve Zolotow bets 3,333
    THE_TRASHMAN has 15 seconds left to act
    THE_TRASHMAN has requested TIME
    THE_TRASHMAN folds
    Uncalled bet of 3,333 returned to Steve Zolotow
    Steve Zolotow mucks
    Steve Zolotow wins the pot (2,182)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2,182 | Rake 0
    Board: [2s Jd Qd Jc Tc]
    Seat 1: THE_TRASHMAN folded on the River
    Seat 4: Flipsen_PT didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: skater3598 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: gravymaker595 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: Steve Zolotow (big blind) collected (2,182), mucked
    Seat 8: FrisBM3 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: BostonWolfpack didn't bet (folded)
     
  2. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 6:19pm) in reply to THE_ALPACA

    With the action pre I don't give him QQ much.

    You raised pre, checked behind the flop and flat called the turn - thats going to look like a mid PP or weak Q to him. He has a Q and thinks its good.

    my 2 cents
  3. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 6:26pm) in reply to saukendar

    i jam prob wtf does he flat pre that u lose to like JQ and JT but he can have KJ too and loads of other random crap and never AK. maybe 89 but thats obv lame if he does. I bet flop too
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  4. THE_ALPACA THE_ALPACA is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 6:42pm) in reply to doubledave22

    was just suprised when he shoved the river thought at worse he just had a jack prolly give him to much credit because it was a sat
     
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  5. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 8:44pm) in reply to THE_ALPACA

    Meh I fold and give him credit just cuz I'd think he'd not be that dumb to turn anything with decent SD value into a bluff but who knows with these old farts nowadays.
  6. Sneakers OToole Sneakers OToole is offline

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    Jan 7th, 2010 (1/7/2010 10:49pm) in reply to THE_ALPACA

    In satellite play, flatting the turn here seems dangerous, because you're not looking to maximize value of your hand to the same extent you would be in an MTT. Survival is more important than being tricky/trappy to get your opponent to blow up for their whole stack. Minraising the turn seems fine, as at the very least you give him a chance to 3 bet ship on you with no hand.

    As played, river decision is tricky. You checked behind a very wet flop after raising preflop, and then flatted his turn bet in position on what is basically a blank. The way you repped your hand here it looks (to him) like you probably have something like 66-10-10, or less frequently a stubborn AK. Calling all in seems fine here, as bluffs should be a big part of his range due to how much you've underrepped your hand up to this point.
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