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Call off your ~50xBB stack with an overpair on a draw heavy board in the $3r?

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  1. Neek Neek is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 2:39pm)

    Now I generally play the $3r to have a monster stack and go for a FT or bust out early. That said I don't like getting a big stack in while drawing thin either. What do you do here? My image has been loose and aggressive, probably like 30/24. Villain has been loose preflop but rarely raises.

     

    pokerstars Game #43200413730: Tournament #307010927, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (400/800) - 2010/04/25 23:09:16 ET
    Table '307010927 103' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Y2JohnK6 (51200 in chips)
    Seat 2: ibanini (14770 in chips)
    Seat 3: joehashemm (56659 in chips)
    Seat 4: Neek555 (42602 in chips)
    Seat 5: Bowl_Cut101 (8147 in chips)
    Seat 6: alexripado (61505 in chips)
    Seat 7: add_on_is22 (29164 in chips)
    Seat 8: saucermid22 (60192 in chips)
    Seat 9: pichguill (11483 in chips)
    Y2JohnK6: posts the ante 125
    ibanini: posts the ante 125
    joehashemm: posts the ante 125
    Neek555: posts the ante 125
    Bowl_Cut101: posts the ante 125
    alexripado: posts the ante 125
    add_on_is22: posts the ante 125
    saucermid22: posts the ante 125
    pichguill: posts the ante 125
    pichguill: posts small blind 400
    Y2JohnK6: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Neek555 [Ts Td]
    ibanini: folds
    joehashemm: folds
    Neek555: raises 1155 to 1955
    Bowl_Cut101: folds
    alexripado: calls 1955
    add_on_is22: folds
    saucermid22: folds
    pichguill: folds
    Y2JohnK6: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9c 6d 8c]
    Neek555: bets 4000
    alexripado: raises 55425 to 59425 and is all-in
    Neek555: ??????

     
  2. 4Aces1King1 4Aces1King1 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 2:48pm) in reply to Neek

    fold, it's a flip, and you'll lose.
  3. cloudyspirits cloudyspirits is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 3:11pm) in reply to Neek

    call
  4. ajedrez ajedrez is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 3:13pm) in reply to cloudyspirits

    not folding in this retard fest
  5. Neek Neek is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 4:35pm) in reply to ajedrez

     
    Originally Posted by ajedrez View Post


    not folding in this retard fest

    That's sort of how I felt about it. But is it the right play?
     
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  6. cloudyspirits cloudyspirits is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 4:41pm) in reply to Neek

    yes
  7. RazorFish00 RazorFish00 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 6:03pm) in reply to cloudyspirits

    Your most likely looking at A 9 making the Jam or maybe in the off chance he has JJ or QQ

    I would make this call and hope that I hold
  8. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 6:40pm) in reply to RazorFish00

     
    Originally Posted by RazorFish00 View Post

    Your most likely looking at A 9 making the Jam or maybe in the off chance he has JJ or QQ

    I would make this call and hope that I hold

    A9 like you said, any 2 clubs, Axcc, and I wouldn't be shocked to see A7 here shipping the open ender.

    If the dude luksakked 2pr or hit a set, then UL but you have outs.

    Like the man said, this tourney is a retardfest, so it has to be right play.
     
  9. ATrainBoston ATrainBoston is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 6:53pm) in reply to bonflizubi

    So what happended? My guess is that the guy had a set. He rarely raises, and if he was drawing he could just call relatively cheaply, whereas hitting his monster he could make one of his rare big raises.
     
  10. SigmaBetaRho SigmaBetaRho is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 8:01pm) in reply to ATrainBoston

     
    Originally Posted by ATrainBoston View Post

    So what happended? My guess is that the guy had a set. He rarely raises, and if he was drawing he could just call relatively cheaply, whereas hitting his monster he could make one of his rare big raises.

    Doubt he has a made hand here. Most likely floosh draw.
  11. Neek Neek is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 9:01pm) in reply to SigmaBetaRho

    The results, I'm apparently awesome at this game:

    pokerstars Game #43200413730: Tournament #307010927, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (400/800) - 2010/04/25 23:09:16 ET
    Table '307010927 103' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Y2JohnK6 (51200 in chips)
    Seat 2: ibanini (14770 in chips)
    Seat 3: joehashemm (56659 in chips)
    Seat 4: Neek555 (42602 in chips)
    Seat 5: Bowl_Cut101 (8147 in chips)
    Seat 6: alexripado (61505 in chips)
    Seat 7: add_on_is22 (29164 in chips)
    Seat 8: saucermid22 (60192 in chips)
    Seat 9: pichguill (11483 in chips)
    Y2JohnK6: posts the ante 125
    ibanini: posts the ante 125
    joehashemm: posts the ante 125
    Neek555: posts the ante 125
    Bowl_Cut101: posts the ante 125
    alexripado: posts the ante 125
    add_on_is22: posts the ante 125
    saucermid22: posts the ante 125
    pichguill: posts the ante 125
    pichguill: posts small blind 400
    Y2JohnK6: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Neek555 [Ts Td]
    ibanini: folds
    joehashemm: folds
    Neek555: raises 1155 to 1955
    Bowl_Cut101: folds
    alexripado: calls 1955
    add_on_is22: folds
    saucermid22: folds
    pichguill: folds
    Y2JohnK6: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9c 6d 8c]
    Neek555: bets 4000
    alexripado: raises 55425 to 59425 and is all-in
    Neek555: calls 36522 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (18903) returned to alexripado
    *** TURN *** [9c 6d 8c] [5h]
    *** RIVER *** [9c 6d 8c 5h] [4d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Neek555: shows [Ts Td] (a pair of Tens)
    alexripado: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
    alexripado collected 87279 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 87279 | Rake 0
    Board [9c 6d 8c 5h 4d]
    Seat 1: Y2JohnK6 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: ibanini folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: joehashemm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Neek555 showed [Ts Td] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 5: Bowl_Cut101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: alexripado showed [Kh Ks] and won (87279) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 7: add_on_is22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: saucermid22 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: pichguill (small blind) folded before Flop
     
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