Well this is becoming common on here for me. Last night I folded this twice so today I decided to call it. Well what do you think do I have to call here anyways? With the raise on the turn I figured straight but this guy was a calling machine.
pokerstars Game #7970263002: Tournament #40723824, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/01/16 - 15:15:54 (ET)
Table '40723824 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: kharris82 (4270 in chips)
Seat 2: painstaking (685 in chips)
Seat 3: McWhacko (4785 in chips)
Seat 4: colorao6060 (3755 in chips)
Seat 5: carolann79 (1055 in chips)
Seat 6: PayForSee (3480 in chips)
Seat 7: MNbassmaster (3635 in chips)
Seat 9: Martha19 (2880 in chips)
kharris82: posts small blind 25
painstaking: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MNbassmaster [9c 9s]
McWhacko: calls 50
colorao6060: folds
carolann79: folds
PayForSee: calls 50
MNbassmaster: raises 200 to 250
Martha19: folds
kharris82: folds
painstaking: folds
McWhacko: calls 200
PayForSee: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [4c Tc 6d]
McWhacko: checks
PayForSee: checks
MNbassmaster: bets 150
McWhacko: calls 150
PayForSee: calls 150
*** TURN *** [4c Tc 6d] [9h]
McWhacko: checks
PayForSee: checks
MNbassmaster: bets 200
McWhacko: calls 200
PayForSee: raises 300 to 500
MNbassmaster: calls 300
McWhacko: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [4c Tc 6d 9h] [5s]
McWhacko: checks
PayForSee: bets 1150
MNbassmaster: calls 1150
McWhacko: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PayForSee: shows [8s 7s] (a straight, Six to Ten)
MNbassmaster: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
PayForSee collected 5075 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5075 | Rake 0
Board [4c Tc 6d 9h 5s]
Seat 1: kharris82 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: painstaking (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: McWhacko folded on the River
Seat 4: colorao6060 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: carolann79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PayForSee showed [8s 7s] and won (5075) with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 7: MNbassmaster showed [9c 9s] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: Martha19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Ran into the same problem last night.

Had 88 and the board came Q9J. I did a small probe bet and got a call. The turn brought my 8. So happy to see this, I did not see the more obvious straight 8 9 J Q. Unfortunately he had the 10 and I donked my chips.

Your straight is harder to see, but like the other comment I would be more earlier.

Dude before you say my flop bet was horrible there was an overcard on the board and I was up against an extremely loose player. He likely would have called an all in bet even. Also you make almost no sense he had the double gutshot plus what do you mean he missed his draw he turned it are you even reading the hand history??

MNbassmaster: raises 200 to 250
MNbassmaster: bets 150

This is bad...nuff said. You're betting less than your preflop raise here...now I don't know about these guys, but I'd interpret that as weakness in a lot of cases. You're pricing any draws in to calling you...either make a legitimate post flop bet in the 400+ range or just check.

Also, if you really thought he had the straight on the turn just fold. Don't make crying calls. Just let the hand go if you have any doubt. Your flop bet is horrible...people could easily call this bet with 2 overs...you find out absolutely nothing about where you stand. Make a legitimate bet and if he pushes, think and make a decision based on the information you've obtained.

I'll answer the question for you: Yes, this is a call you can make. He's betting 1150 into a 3K pot, so you getting laid almost 4-1 on the call.

Whether or not you can lay it down I base on what hands I've seen the player showdown. You bashing players databases (check mine too, you'll see I never play a MTT or SNG really) that aere just trying to help you fix a leak makes no sense.

What about having it played this way: You bet 600 into that flop and pick it up right there, or you get repopped. Well, then you muck(i would assume), and be out 600. The way you played it you lost 1800.

I suppose I should mention that I wasn't referring to your turn call as a crying one. My bad...the turn call is fine to try and catch the boat. The river is the one that seemed like a crying call...sorry about that. You have every reason to make the call on the turn. I meant to say if you believe he has the straight on the river, just fold it there. On the turn even if you think he has the straight yeah you know you have outs blah blah blah.

Yea man, you bet 150 into 750 on the flop, this is plenty cheap enough for a flush draw being that there are 2 clubs and his double gutter,( a 5 or 9 makes his straight). And with the raise it shouldnt be a hard fold, these 4.40 noobs dont get fancy, if they make this raise they're usually holding the goods.

*** TURN *** [4c Tc 6d] [9h]
McWhacko: checks
PayForSee: checks
MNbassmaster: bets 200
McWhacko: calls 200
PayForSee: raises 300 to 500
MNbassmaster: calls 300
McWhacko: calls 300

this guy is begging for action

I guess nobody understands this post, the point wasnt how much I was supposed to bet or not bet the point was I had a set and was I supposed to call or not on the river. I knew where I was in the hand he either had a straight or 2 pair. If I had bet 500 on the flop he would have called trust me This guy called a gutshot previous hand all in I watched and he rivered it to win. So if I had bet more on the flop say 500-700 he calls turn comes a set do I bet big again? If so I would have probably gone broke he would have raised me all in I would have half my money in pot and have to call. Wouldnt I? The way I see the flop bet small wasnt so bad because he hits the straight and I can then just check call my set.
Either way thanks for all the replies so far and sorry if I offended anone.