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Can I have some ranges please??? UPDATED WITH RESULTS

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  1. eg23 eg23 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 2:31pm)

    Alright Im just wondering what you guys think his shoving range is here and what my calling range should be.... This was right after the add on in the 20 1r 1a... I had a somewhat tarnished image after being caught bluffing two rivers before the break but I also managed to chip up abit w/o showdown... The villian was fairly standard wasnt getting too out of line from what I saw... Over shoved one flop for like 8x the initial raise.... I figure I have to factor in potential squeeze because its quite an ideal spot with my image and all the cold callers aswell....

    Any responses are greatly appreciated...

    Villians Range with shove =
    My Range to call shove =

    pokerstars Game #15714577297: Tournament #79394645, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/03/03 - 15:22:50 (ET)
    Table '79394645 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Jde22PJ (6730 in chips)
    Seat 2: wito123 (3585 in chips)
    Seat 3: earlgrey23 (6485 in chips)
    Seat 5: ty_vl (5144 in chips)
    Seat 6: melons72 (6113 in chips)
    Seat 7: Kalka555 (3450 in chips)
    Seat 8: mscell (4975 in chips)
    Seat 9: sono 470 (5255 in chips)
    Jde22PJ: posts small blind 75
    wito123: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to earlgrey23 [X X]
    earlgrey23: raises 300 to 450
    ty_vl: folds
    melons72: calls 450
    Kalka555: folds
    $ REST 21 $ is connected
    mscell: calls 450
    sono 470: calls 450
    Jde22PJ: raises 6280 to 6730 and is all-in
    wito123: folds
    earlgrey23: ?????
     
  2. AMelione AMelione is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 2:38pm) in reply to eg23

    i think minimum here u r looking at AQ+ TT+ and thats streching it. i would not call with anything else but AK and QQ+
  3. AP Indy AP Indy is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 2:48pm) in reply to eg23

    if i am reading the hh correct there is about 1800 in the pot which is a good size pot at this point to pick up without a flop so i'm putting him on JJ, QQ, or AK (strong but with a raise and 3 others wanting to look at a flop not a super strong hand). he is the chipleader at the table so he this will put all others in for there tourney life. i only call here with AA KK and maybe AK. but i'm not a ranked player...i'd like to see others oppinions.
  4. eg23 eg23 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 3:37pm) in reply to AP Indy

    Thanks for the responses.... Ill post the results after some more posts... but Ill say this much I think my hand was at the bottom of my calling range (haha i guess hence the post)
     
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  5. djoshaz djoshaz is offline not an Irish DJ

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 3:39pm) in reply to eg23

    I'd call with AK or JJ+ and bust his AQ
  6. Chip Daddy Chip Daddy is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 4:04pm) in reply to eg23

    if im looking at this correctly SB should be shoving with this range
    <TABLE class=simple cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD><TD>31.2%, 22+ A2s+ A3o+ K6s+ KTo+ Q8s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T7s+ 97s+ 87s 76s </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    utg should be calling with this range

    <TABLE class=simple cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>UTG</TD><TD><TD><TD>2.6%, QQ+ AKs AKo </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    I may have done it wrong but thats a ruff guesstimate!!
  7. ficha19 ficha19 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 4:14pm) in reply to eg23

    I dont think he would be shoving AA of KK here... i think you are looking at AK, JJ, QQ... could be 99 or TT depending on how loose he is.
    I would go into the time bank with AK since you are probably looking at a race.... difficult decision. I would fold JJ-, call with QQ and hope he has a lower pp or AK
  8. felloff felloff is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 4:20pm) in reply to ficha19

    here i call with a pair jj-aa... folding ak and aq... he probably has ak here or 99 or 1010 it looks like.
  9. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 4:40pm) in reply to eg23

    JJ+, AK based on your vague read (and I'm NOT happy about getting it in with JJ/AK). I can't imagine calling with anything less than TT+/AK, even against a loose/wild player.

    His range is probably TT+, AK/AQ... seems slightly loose, but not bad. AJ is never doing this and most won't be pushing middle pairs too often here either.
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  10. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2008 (3/3/2008 5:37pm) in reply to eg23

    I don't think someone who shoves 44bb's really has a range you can pin point. frankly, i'd considering calling with a pp as low as 99 here, depending on how i perceived my opponent to play
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    Mar 4th, 2008 (3/4/2008 12:16am) in reply to downbylaw11

    It was a very large push but I still think its very reasonable to figure out a range of some sort..... here are the results.... The widest Range I put him on is 99-AA AK AK suited, and maybe a combo of AQ (tighter range is the same without 99 or AQ)..... this range also isnt taking into consideration the rare time i think hes creative/crazy enough to stick it in with suited connectors on a squeeze..... I felt my range to call was QQ-AA AK,,,,wouldve had a tough time laying down JJ.... Is this too Nitty?????

    pokerstars Game #15714577297: Tournament #79394645, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/03/03 - 15:22:50 (ET)
    Table '79394645 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Jde22PJ (6730 in chips)
    Seat 2: wito123 (3585 in chips)
    Seat 3: earlgrey23 (6485 in chips)
    Seat 5: ty_vl (5144 in chips)
    Seat 6: melons72 (6113 in chips)
    Seat 7: Kalka555 (3450 in chips)
    Seat 8: mscell (4975 in chips)
    Seat 9: sono 470 (5255 in chips)
    Jde22PJ: posts small blind 75
    wito123: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to earlgrey23 [Qs Qd]
    earlgrey23: raises 300 to 450
    ty_vl: folds
    melons72: calls 450
    Kalka555: folds
    $ REST 21 $ is connected
    mscell: calls 450
    sono 470: calls 450
    Jde22PJ: raises 6280 to 6730 and is all-in
    wito123: folds
    earlgrey23: calls 6035 and is all-in
    melons72: folds
    mscell: folds
    sono 470: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ks 5c 2h]
    *** TURN *** [Ks 5c 2h] [8h]
    earlgrey23 said, "nh gg"
    *** RIVER *** [Ks 5c 2h 8h] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Jde22PJ: shows [Kd Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
    earlgrey23: shows [Qs Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    Jde22PJ said, "nh cooler"
    Jde22PJ collected 14470 from pot
    Jde22PJ said, "gg"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 14470 | Rake 0
    Board [Ks 5c 2h 8h Jd]
    Seat 1: Jde22PJ (small blind) showed [Kd Kh] and won (14470) with three of a kind, Kings
    Seat 2: wito123 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: earlgrey23 showed [Qs Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 5: ty_vl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: melons72 folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Kalka555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: mscell folded before Flop
    Seat 9: sono 470 (button) folded before Flop
     
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  12. eg23 eg23 is offline

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    Mar 4th, 2008 (3/4/2008 1:19pm) in reply to eg23

    Uppin... just seeing if any experienced players think my range is correct.. thanks
     
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