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can someone explain this call to me?

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  1. eatyourstack eatyourstack is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 1:08am)

    We have a little history, he reshoved on my AK earlier when I raised button and we chopped the pot on a A-A-8-K-K board. I have 225k and average is 110k~. There are 21 people left. 5k for first. Is it just to me or is this one of the worst calls you have seen? Like bottom of my range is 10s, AQ. Esp after he flats cause many flat shoves nowadays with monsters..

    pokerstars Game #40838594529: Tournament #288011037, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2010/03/08 1:48:35 ET
    Table '288011037 9' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: gigliocom (219981 in chips)
    Seat 2: tzahi2008 (52853 in chips)
    Seat 3: Pessagno (20200 in chips)
    Seat 4: SonofCount (276640 in chips)
    Seat 5: eatyourstac (225514 in chips)
    Seat 6: AlvesPKR (37875 in chips)
    Seat 7: gr8nuttz (65949 in chips)
    gigliocom: posts the ante 400
    tzahi2008: posts the ante 400
    Pessagno: posts the ante 400
    SonofCount: posts the ante 400
    eatyourstac: posts the ante 400
    AlvesPKR: posts the ante 400
    gr8nuttz: posts the ante 400
    SonofCount: posts small blind 2000
    eatyourstac: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to eatyourstac [Ts Tc]
    gr8nuttz said, "qq laydown"
    AlvesPKR: folds
    gr8nuttz: folds
    gigliocom: folds
    tzahi2008: raises 48453 to 52453 and is all-in
    Pessagno: folds
    SonofCount: calls 50453
    eatyourstac: raises 172661 to 225114 and is all-in
    SonofCount: calls 172661
    *** FLOP *** [3s 8h 3d]
    *** TURN *** [3s 8h 3d] [4d]
    *** RIVER *** [3s 8h 3d 4d] [Ac]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SonofCount: shows [Ad Js] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
    eatyourstac: shows [Ts Tc] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
    SonofCount collected 345322 from side pot
    tzahi2008: shows [4c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
    tzahi2008 collected 160159 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 505481 Main pot 160159. Side pot 345322. | Rake 0
    Board [3s 8h 3d 4d Ac]
    Seat 1: gigliocom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: tzahi2008 showed [4c Ah] and won (160159) with two pair, Aces and Fours
    Seat 3: Pessagno (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: SonofCount (small blind) showed [Ad Js] and won (345322) with two pair, Aces and Threes
    Seat 5: eatyourstac (big blind) showed [Ts Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes
    Seat 6: AlvesPKR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: gr8nuttz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. snowman2k6 snowman2k6 is offline DO NOT TRADE -- MONEY TRANSFER SCAMMER

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 1:11am) in reply to eatyourstack

    prolly he sucks.
  3. smkeens smkeens is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 1:24am) in reply to snowman2k6

    Not that it means much but im never flating the all in then calling your shove. Think his play needs to be fold or jam the first raise and put you to a hard call with your 10's. Don't mind if he jams to isolate the all in and it plays out as above. But calling twice is spewy.
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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 1:28am) in reply to eatyourstack

    Good MTT player according to opr.
  5. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 2:05am) in reply to xxbossmanxx

    maybe he thought you might spaz out on him thinking he was donkey flatting with crap?
     
  6. desipc desipc is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 3:17am) in reply to bonflizubi

    I am not sure what exactly he is thinking here. AQ minimum you have. His best bet is if you have A10, 66,77,88,99,10's in which case he is racing at best. Spewy call imo.
     
  7. Admiral Admiral is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 3:33am) in reply to eatyourstack

    Probably because the guy shoving 13BBs may have been shoving the past few orbits and could be precieved as weak so hes thinking the BB knows he doesnt have to have a huge hand to call him here, hes thinking the BB could be isolating with an assortment of pairs MAYBE some weaker Ax etc. He was also getting just under 2 to 1 on the call and hes 41/59 against 66+ A9ss+ ATo+ and KQs, if thats too loose for you then he is 35/65 against 88+ ATs+ and AJo+. So even at a pretty tight reshoving range hes still within his means to call.

    Im personally shoving AJ so I will never be in this spot but it really isnt as bad as it looks.
  8. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 3:41am) in reply to Admiral

    what's your point, you hate when opponents make bad calls?
     
  9. eatyourstack eatyourstack is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 4:02am) in reply to funnygut

     
    Originally Posted by funnygut View Post

    what's your point, you hate when opponents make bad calls? 

    and suck out :)

    nahh just frustrating cause his call is so weird esp cause I'm the only who can hurt his stack at the table and av is only 110k and we have plenty of chips

    If he is isolating I fold most of the time and yeah he is getting better than 2:1 but he is always behind there cause this is the bottom of my range..
     
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  10. ICE-MAN2776 ICE-MAN2776 is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 4:49am) in reply to eatyourstack

    Seems a bad call from him but we want him to do that. Obv we want it to hold tho!! Just an unlucky beat
  11. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 7:54am) in reply to ICE-MAN2776

     
    Originally Posted by ICE-MAN2776 View Post

    Seems a bad call from him but we want him to do that. Obv we want it to hold tho!! Just an unlucky beat

    qft
     
  12. Drewch Drewch is offline

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    Mar 8th, 2010 (3/8/2010 8:45am) in reply to eatyourstack

    some ppl just know
     
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