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can u ever fold here?

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  1. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Jul 5th, 2010 (7/5/2010 11:50pm)

    .5/1 cash game

    my stack: $116
    villian: $124

    folds to him in cuttoff + 1 he limps in
    i raise to $3 on button with 69clubs

    flop A84, 1 club
    he checks i bet $4
    he calls

    turn 2 clubs
    he checks, i bet $10
    he calls

    river is T clubs
    he checks, i bet $24
    he thinks for most of his time then shoves in for around $80ish

    you calling here everytime?

    i put him on ace rag of clubs and called like that donk that i am.
    sure enough he had ace rag of clubs...

    My thinking is that he almost is never going to be pure bluffing here. I just dont see the point. I dont think he is ck shoving with just an ace or even a set.

    Just curious to what your guys thinking would be on the river? I was actually folding, but then it was gonna kill me inside not to know what he had so i fuckin donked off and called.

    edit: i mean i guess i was ahead of 87clubs or 45clubs
    Edited By: nezbit Jul 6th, 2010 at 12:00 AM
    Reason: forgot
  2. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 1:59am) in reply to nezbit

    Never folding, raise more pre, like $4-5 tho
     
  3. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 2:49am) in reply to rivverkiller

    raise more pre? LOL

    its deepstacked poker whats the point of inflating the pot with a shitty hand?
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  4. blackstar74 blackstar74 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 4:38am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    raise more pre? LOL

    its deepstacked poker whats the point of inflating the pot with a shitty hand?

    why do I have the feeling your stats are 45/5... 100nl is dead?
  5. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 8:54am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    raise more pre? LOL

    its deepstacked poker whats the point of inflating the pot with a shitty hand?

    haha ya man, I don't really know what I'm talkin bout...gl tho
     
  6. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 8:58am) in reply to rivverkiller

    i´m calling since the flush came backdoor.and since it´s a backdoor flush he could play two pair or a set like this even with 3 clubs out there since he almost never put u on a flush
     
  7. MastaP89 MastaP89 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 9:27am) in reply to matze_widi

    minraise pre, bet 1$ on flop, 1.25$ on turn and 1.5$ on river... its deepstackpoker no need to inflate the pot...and fold when he raises you dont have the nuts...
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  8. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 10:57am) in reply to MastaP89

    I think youv'e inflated the pot too much with 6c9c.
    Its a reluctant call on the river.
    Put it down to a cooler.
    Edited By: rayfox111 Jul 6th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
  9. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 5:51pm) in reply to rayfox111

    lol at tourney players thinkin they have a clue about cash games

    i guess thats why you guys stick to tourneys and not cash games right?

    this hand was on bodog, and the cash game i was in was pretty soft

    next time ill raise 6bb pre, then pot bet flop then pot bet turn, then put my last 20 in on river - "tourney way of life in cash games"
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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 6:00pm) in reply to nezbit

    lypwakys
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  11. MastaP89 MastaP89 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 6:03pm) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    lol at tourney players thinkin they have a clue about cash games

    i guess thats why you guys stick to tourneys and not cash games right?

    this hand was on bodog, and the cash game i was in was pretty soft

    next time ill raise 6bb pre, then pot bet flop then pot bet turn, then put my last 20 in on river - "tourney way of life in cash games"

    I mean just delete your acc here, and bother people irl that had the misfortune of getting to know you
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  12. Tito Francoma Tito Francoma is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 6:04pm) in reply to MastaP89

    why ask for advice and then shit on the responses you get?
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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 6:09pm) in reply to Tito Francoma

    love me some pot bets
     
  14. blackstar74 blackstar74 is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 8:06pm) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    lol at tourney players thinkin they have a clue about cash games

    i guess thats why you guys stick to tourneys and not cash games right?

    this hand was on bodog, and the cash game i was in was pretty soft

    next time ill raise 6bb pre, then pot bet flop then pot bet turn, then put my last 20 in on river - "tourney way of life in cash games"

    So this thread wasnt a question, but a tutorial?

    Is this how a deepstack cash pro plays AK: http://www.pokertableratings.com/han...365/6094205900

    I do the same thing btw, but I also suck at poker.
    Edited By: blackstar74 Jul 6th, 2010 at 08:52 PM
    Reason: I suck at poker
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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 8:21pm) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    lol at tourney players thinkin they have a clue about cash games

    i guess thats why you guys stick to tourneys and not cash games right?

    this hand was on bodog, and the cash game i was in was pretty soft

    next time ill raise 6bb pre, then pot bet flop then pot bet turn, then put my last 20 in on river - "tourney way of life in cash games"


    Ya can't imagine why you'd want to inflate a pot when you're in position, or why youd want to increase your preflop fold equity when you have 9 high...lol honestly just delete your account. You have no clue what you're talking about and add nothing to this forum. You wanted advice and you got it...post this hand on 2+2, cardrunners, deucescracked w/e and you'll get the same responses.
     
  16. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 11:07pm) in reply to rivverkiller

    let me get this straight...

    you want me to raise more pre then bet more on the flop?

    how in the fuckin hell does that make any sense?

    so you think i should just give him more money when im behind? wp guys
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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 11:18pm) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    let me get this straight...

    you want me to raise more pre then bet more on the flop?

    how in the fuckin hell does that make any sense?

    so you think i should just give him more money when im behind? wp guys

    Well, and im sure someone will correct me if im wrong, I suck at cash. But... you are in position so you can take advantage of that first off. Secondly if you raise you take control of the hand and obtain more fe on your cbet. you have a draw hand so flops should be easy to play for the most part. either you smash the flop or you have absolutely nothing. But dont over value top pair...
    This is also a good hand to polarize your range with, but this is a concept I am still trying to understand, this may or may not be a good hand for that, we shall see.
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    Jul 6th, 2010 (7/6/2010 11:33pm) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    let me get this straight...

    you want me to raise more pre then bet more on the flop?

    how in the fuckin hell does that make any sense?

    so you think i should just give him more money when im behind? wp guys

    Ask yourself why you're raising in the first place...this isn't even a complicated concept. If you weren't being such a douche about the whole thing, I'm sure someone would even explain it to you so you can better yourself as a poker player. I'm done with this thread tho...best of luck man
     
  19. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 12:15am) in reply to rivverkiller

    im taking control of the pot in positon...thats why im raising in the first place

    explain why in tourneys you dont raise 5-6 bb? hmmmmm.... tuff one huh LOLOLOLOL

    well lets see i havent worked for 5 years now and play cash games for a living...wtf do i know about poker...must be a nub
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  20. MastaP89 MastaP89 is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 12:20am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post


    well lets see i havent worked for 5 years now and play cash games for a living...wtf do i know about poker...must be a nub

    ahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaa
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  21. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:00am) in reply to nezbit

     
    Originally Posted by nezbit View Post

    raise more pre? LOL

    its deepstacked poker whats the point of inflating the pot with a shitty hand?

    i guess im not the only one who raises less with their bad hands than their good hands
     
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