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Cash Games: Suited Connectors and small pairs

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  1. Loduca99 Loduca99 is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2012 (6/15/2012 8:21pm)

    I feel i may have a leak in my cash games.....if somebody could give me their input and help on this matter it would be greatly appreciated.
    Usually what i like to do with suited connectors and small pairs is just call in position in a raised pot and try to hit or fold. I feel like this strategy however would not make me money over the course of over 10k hands. I feel like I am losing money. Also out of position i dont mind 3 betting with hands like this. Once again im unsure if it is a winning hand over time?
    Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. Right now im currently grinding the 2 cent 5 cent micros games on stars trying to build the bankroll.
    If you think this play is only correct against certain player types please let me know......or if i should just eliminate playing those types of hands at all unless being deep stacked. HELP
  2. yjbrewer yjbrewer is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2012 (6/15/2012 8:33pm) in reply to Loduca99

    I don't mind playing them in our out of position. I like to learn my table dynamics first. Then I call, raise fold depending on situation and opp. I think a late pos raiser you can get away with some 3bets depending on range. Fold to old people they are nits.
  3. chronkie chronkie is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2012 (6/16/2012 4:16am) in reply to yjbrewer

    I like these hands generally from late position. Stacks definitely do matter like you suggested. Unless you and your opponents are deep enough to give you decent implied odds, it just doesn't make sense to get into pots. They become super +ev because of the times you hit your nuts and stack off your spewy opponents. So generally you want to be playing these against deep villians who can stack off pretty light.

    The suited connectors do come useful against nitty opponents as well, when you are in position. They often give you a lot of chances to raise or 3bet on semibluff's where you can take the pot away right away or still have outs if your opponents call. Against nits you will generally be facing a tighter range, so if you are not hitting the nuts and can't get them off their hand it is a bad spot to get involved.

    Always be conscious of board texture and how it hits your opponents ranges and don't play hands where you aren't getting decent odds on future streets.

    I am not sure i like raising out of position because a lot of times you will be in tough spots on the flop. You will have a hard time figuring out where you are in the hand and it takes away a lot of the semi-bluff opportunities. I am looking to play larger pots in position, but would be interested to see what others have to say about this.
  4. Loduca99 Loduca99 is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2012 (6/16/2012 7:09am) in reply to chronkie

    interesting post^^^......i also would like more input on this topic but i relly like what you had to say chronkie....thanks
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  5. fbassman2001 fbassman2001 is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2012 (6/18/2012 10:23pm) in reply to Loduca99

    I think as long as you are not calling more than a 3x raise in position these hands will be profitable in the long run as long as you are not making mistakes post flop. I would avoid doing a lot of 3 betting out of position, however. I think sometimes you should try to bluff if you are up against one opponent and you think it is likely that they missed the flop.

    Make sure you have enough implied odds to be making these types of calls as well. About 15:1 for pocket pairs and maybe even a little more for suited connectors.
    Edited By: fbassman2001 Jun 18th, 2012 at 10:25 PM
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