very good point new river

jeff madsen won 2 wsop bracelets in under a week... such things arent impossible and while improbable enough to the point of being possibly suspicious, certainly dont warrant immediate public accusations of cheating. as if it's her place to decide whether or not the wins are legitimate or not.

i kind of thought after jennifear's post youd apologize and say "sorry, i was thinking of someone else," or at least some kind of apology, but you were just a total douchebag... again.

in the world of threebanger...

"tournament director matt savage here, with main even winner jerry yang. you certainly had a nice run at the final table there. im sorry, i cannot officially congratulate you yet, as you may be a cheating bastard, but i can present this bracelet to a temp that works here, so that he may present it to you and shake your hand. i must note that this handshake is not necessarilly indicative of my feelings or the feelings of harrahs gaming. so, enjoy your winnings, ah, at least for now. and ill see you later."

here here

Flame away. I need your attention like I need more bills. This is about online poker and some of you whistling while it gets taken to its grave in the US. Jerry Yang's every movement and hole card was visible. That's a pathetic analogy.

I don't think it's a cheap shot at all. The thread in question had several people questioning Mr. Vaughn's wins, and she went straight past them to a blanket congratulations. If my questioning that bothers anyone, I really don't care.

Lenny,

I've reread the OP 3 times now looking for a sign of harassment. Unless his post was edited, all Round has done is express a totally valid opinion. I can't see what's possibly wrong with this post considering if the accusations are true (and Round was even thoughtful enough to preface with 'assuming') a guy writing about poker with an expected level of credibility found cheating should OF COURSE be fired.

How is this not super obvious? Have them fire Vaughn and hire Round, who's clearly a better player, better writer, and not a lying sack of shit.

Okay thanks. I used some colorful language in my original message, but if you read it closely it certainly wasn't aimed at you. I just wanted to know why you didn't question his wins when others were. Like I said before, I take you at your word, so you must've just responded without really looking at the thread.

I cosign with everyone, that he should be fired. If not, then everyone should tell everyone that they know to cancel their subscription with Bluff Magazing. How can people in respectable companies perform these types of illegal activties. The worst thing is he lied to everyone, even adam and the whole online community that he won the tournament himself.

I don't understand why they say they will call the police on people who are calling. The whole damn Bluff organziation knows about this and it looks like they don't even care about the situation. Obviously trying to avoid the situation, just as what AP did.

LoL @ them being out of line firing him for this. He works for a respected company that covers poker. How could they continue to employ somebody if he is found to be guilty of cheating. And lets use an example lets say a reporter from a Boston TV station became real tight with the Patriots coaching staff, and its found out he was the one filming the other teams to help them cheat. How long do you think it would take them to fire him?

Do not fret.

He can afford to quit his job since he cleanly won hundreds of thousands of dollars playing poker....

LOL @ the Chris Vaughn shill.

He should lose his job at the very least. Bluff will take a serious hit from one of its editors breaking the rules, for one. If an editor at the Wall Street Journal was found to have engaged in insider trading, would he keep his job? Secondly, his actions have further compromised the state of legitimizing online poker. Lastly, on top of everything else he came on here, radio interviews, and so on, bragging about his victories and lying straight through his teeth. He has zero personal or professional credibility left with anyone in the "poker media" after doing that.

I don't know how you can say he should keep his job after he tried to dupe other poker journalists who were just trying to do theirs.

I see your point, but what I was trying to say is that Bluff isn't the Wall Street Journal.

News reporters have a very strict code of ethics that they must abide by. They usually have to sign a contract when they are hired. Entertainment writers don't have the same code because the nature of the industry is very different. For example, if the editor of the Wall Street Journal accepts a "gift" of stock in a company, he would be fired without question. But Jeff Shulman accepts his "invitation" to the NBC HU Championship every year. NBC doesn't invite Shulman because he's one of the 64 best players in the world, they invite him because he owns a major poker magazine. That's the nature of entertainment media and it's accepted.

As far as the lying is concerned, this guy only lied about cheating. I know that on the surface this doesn't seem different, but it is.

I agree that he has no personal credibility, but I honestly don't think this destroys his professional credibility. If the next article he writes is a feature on Annette, for example, I don't see how this incident would discredit the article.

That poker sites could skim excess rebuys right off the top of the prizepool(no way to verfity this)

could't you like count all chips in play to verify this doesnt happen?

If someone thinks a poker publication should have more respect for the game than to employ a known cheat then they should feel free to voice their opinion. He did use contacts made from his work with virtual felt to cheat at least once, more than likely three times(Don't forget UB 200). How can anyone take his articles about internet poker seriously ever again. When someone uses a position at work to steal from others then termination is just. Chris Vaughn is a chaeting coward who will not even respond to the allegations now they are proven. He was quick to lie on Big Poker Sunday about involvement with cheating. Would you emply someone who lies while representing your company on a national radio show? If so you are an idiot and a tool. FIRE CHRIS VAUGHN.

I've just seen the problem with poker summed up in three words. You're a wise man, BOKE.