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WTF is wrong with pokerstars?, Don't they even know their own TOS rules, ? After emails back and forth, and them calling me to 'warn' me about playing only on cigardad's account, right out of the other side of their mouth, on the phone, security tells me that its OK for my wife to play my account< WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Andre's reasoning was, that as long as the other person does not have a pokerstars account of their own, then it is OK for them to play a registered players account. again, WTF ?!?!. Since I did the right thing and closed I_love_jd's (my wifes) account its therefore OK for her to play as cigardad? I also stopped playing at my nieghbors house and family members house's, had them get sent checks for the money they won, and watched as those acounts consistently lose just as they consistently won before the cash out. So, am I safe to assume that if I close my acount as cigardad, it is then OK to play on others acounts, since i dont have one of my own?.
Since my last posts on this subject about how for the last how many ever months (its over 10 now), after I get to blind level '10' of a MTT, or 1 from the money in a sit n go or satilite. i win exactly 1% of all hands at showdown when ahead going in, that means that I lose 99 of every 100 hands at showdown when at least, a 51% favorite, and more times than not, its pair vs. smaller pair etc. Since i got this email that I will post below, its even worse. I take that as another mesage from pokerstars to me that i should of never fucked with them. Now, its on. I'm now 7 for 7 on accounts other than cigardad with a very high ROI in their first 7 to 20 days of being played. Once a cashout occurs, the account cools off to the other 'side' of ROI, a total opposite of what it was before 'cash out' was clicked. Anyone else understand the patern that i am trying to explain here?
New accounts rule, period, They have a hard on for cigardad, fact. ---If you are one of the players who feels that you are not being dealt fair cards, then please, try what i have been doing, I honestly believe that the software is set up to allow new players to not get as crushed as they should, and allows a fairly good player to have tremendous results. On the other hand, someone who has caused the numerous problems like I have for pokerstars, its pretty obvious that they can also deal you all 2nd best hands, at any level of the game they choose.
I am open to having any top player that would want to talk to me on the phone, and watch as I play after reaching level 10 in a MTT with a nice stack, and just sit with me and watch or 'coach'as every hand loses in all situations, I have a few friends that we IM for the last year as we play, but they are not top players obv. I'll even let that person keep a big chunk of any winnings, I'll pay all buy in's. ?. By top players, I mean, you know i know who you are. We will do this with your idenity never revealed unless you choose to do so. If you can prove that I am just the unluckiest S.O.B. that ever got to level 10 with a stack to play poker, I'll publicly post that I was wrong, and it was me all along. But that won;t happen. Any takers?,
Hello Mike,
Thanks again for the time at the telephone. As I explained, please reply
to this email acknowledging the consequences of any future infraction to
our multiple account policy.
In simple terms, just keep using none but your own 'cigardad' account and
there should be no further problems. With the exception of your wife, it
is also very wise to avoid anyone else play on your account, especially if
that someone else already has a PokerStars account. Like I explained,
therein lies the issue of account sharing. Please visit the following
link for further details (especially in section 4.2):
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos
Any future infraction to these terms may result in permanent suspension of
the accounts involved. If there is anything else we can help you with,
please do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Andres S.
PokerStars Game Security &
Multiple Accounts Specialist -
Please, let me add this, as cigardad, I am down in last year, over $40k. with zero cashouts. On all other accounts, i am over $300k profit for the year and no, I'm not going to stop doing it, would you?.
And in live tourneys, I am up over $110k for the year. Is there really that much variance over a long period of time and games, that ONLY cigardad loses????. lol -
pops, give up already. just because youre awful doesnt mean its rigged
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I understand your frustration Cigardad, but I have a hard time believing what you say to be true. And believe me, I have been through runs like you are talkin about and have noticed it seems after a cashout that things slow down, but I don't think there is any merit to the theory you have. I am gonna give it a try tho to see if I have instant rampant success on a new account, and I hope you're right.
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GambleAB, learn to read and comprehend what is written, acording to Andre, who I had a nice long conversation with, it is perfectly OK to play on others accounts, as long as you do not have an account yourself. Also, Its perfectly OK to sit and watch as a friend or family member clicks the mouse. On the phone, he said so.... Do you get it yet sir?
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You're worse than mkind. At least he has a brain.
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Pupkin, people like you that are flat broke as you post that you are, are the ones who must not have a brain, otherwise, you wouldnt be broke
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sandler stop using such big words such as correlation, causality, and hypothesis. you are going to confuse him
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well, sandler, lets get some merit, know of any 'top ranked' players that want to take the test?. Can you grasp that simple concept?
Yes, please put the dictionary down, nobody cares how edge-a-ma-cated you are. -
law of attraction. read the secret man, lolz
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How about closing your account and going around and finding accounts that are friendly to you. It will be kind of like roulette. You would be legally playing because you don't have your own account. I am such a genius. I need a backer.
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Thats ok fish, nobody likes communist russian scum either. please worry about your POS country in helping Iran's efforts to end the world and forget about little ole me?. btw, I like potatoe vodka you red mofo. when you going to send me a bottle?
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</TD><TD>Re(2): Cleared of any wrong doing by Pokerstars, but still confused???
by rocket5 on 10/14/2007 19:51 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR>
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This is the same "guy" that went around pretending to be a female like a year ago, talked to people at tables like "he" was female and all, and even posted a picture of a female when he won the weekly TLB... Then comes clean to tell us all that it was all part of some elaborate scheme to prove that new accounts on pokerstars are RIGGED to help them and he was trying to prove that..
All you have proven is that you are a multi accounting POS that parades around acting like a female... Very pathetic. -
What I have done is perfectly legal according to pokerstars security. that you fail to listen to that after I posted it, is 'Very pathetic', what?, are you under the asumption that if you stick up for stars that they might reward you with a few lucky hands or something?...well to be honest holdmfoldm, that may very well also be true. lmao
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Because you exploit some "gray" area doesnt make you anything special bro just an stupid piece of shit in my book honestly. Its funny that you believe that "taking stars side will get me some lucky hands" How fuckin stupid are you man??? Jesus and whats "very pathetic" is you pranced around the forums and the tables AS IF YOU WERE A GIRL!!!!!
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Guy from what your post says your wife can play on account because she has no account of her own. So I merely suggested that you close yours.
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And I remember you trying to flirt back, don't be bitter that you were attracted to what everybody else at the table knew was obviously a man all along, maybe its your coming out party?, Please don't be like this, I really thought we had a good thing going. lmao. 'Bro' Tell me to my face what a POS I am you fuckin redneck, You'll wish you stayed in your moms trailer hiding. :-)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> -
Congrats Cigardad!
You've acheived an as yet undiscovered level of retarded with this post.
Science thanks you. -
Wow vesper, that was such a great rebuttal to the topic, Im really impressed, thanks for your contribution. Funny that you of all people would use the word 'retarded' after a post like that?
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cigardad,
You obviously knew you were gonna get flamed when you made this post, so whats the point? Whether it's superstition, luck, or in reality new accounts really do run good, I say keep your opinions/results to yourself, because if you bring them here you're just going to get close-minded responses and your posts shipped to bad beats. Fuck what everyone else thinks, if the varience is really that extreme on the different accounts you play on, then you'll have last laugh. -
Shortstack, I'm obv having a lot of fun with the flaming, I am also having the last laugh, and will continue to do so.
I'm still waiting for some good players to comment on here, you may of been the first. let me see, ...pupkin, fishontilt, gambleAB, ...yep, you are the first. -
CigarDad,
My question is have "cigardad" and "I love_JD" your ADMITTED other account ever played the same tourney ???
I'm pretty sure I know the answer anyway and you will say "uh oh yea we have but my wife played that one and not me" Its just funny to me that you have chosen to post in other threads talking about turning in cheaters and emailing support etc.. but you have multiple account (at least 2 that you admit too) and even pretended to be a female on these boards and on the tables..
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