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  1. amak316 amak316 is offline

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    Jul 24th, 2007 (7/24/2007 11:50pm)

    Getting nearish to the bubble, 34 left 27 pay, BigEgypt has been playing pretty aggro reraising alot preflop, 100r. Thoughts plzzzz

    pokerstars Game #11120610595: Tournament #56064733, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/07/24 - 23:39:07 (ET)
    Table '56064733 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: PITU_poker (50257 in chips)
    Seat 2: AMAK316 (61185 in chips)
    Seat 3: bigegypt (104288 in chips)
    Seat 4: NoraFlum (106826 in chips)
    Seat 5: bparis (31363 in chips)
    Seat 6: muttern2k (23794 in chips)
    Seat 7: Froggymizz (69547 in chips)
    Seat 8: The X Force (21152 in chips)
    Seat 9: TenthPlanet (23368 in chips)
    PITU_poker: posts the ante 200
    AMAK316: posts the ante 200
    bigegypt: posts the ante 200
    NoraFlum: posts the ante 200
    bparis: posts the ante 200
    muttern2k: posts the ante 200
    Froggymizz: posts the ante 200
    The X Force: posts the ante 200
    TenthPlanet: posts the ante 200
    Froggymizz: posts small blind 1000
    The X Force: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to AMAK316 [Js Ah]
    AMAK316 said, "APG sees all"
    TenthPlanet: folds
    PITU_poker: folds
    AMAK316: raises 3250 to 5250
    bigegypt: calls 5250
    NoraFlum: folds
    bparis: folds
    muttern2k: folds
    Froggymizz: folds
    The X Force: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Td 9s Ac]
    AMAK316: bets 8250
    bigegypt: raises 14250 to 22500
    AMAK316: raises 33235 to 55735 and is all-in
    bigegypt: calls 33235
    *** TURN *** [Td 9s Ac] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [Td 9s Ac 5d] [5s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    AMAK316: shows [Js Ah] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    bigegypt: shows [Ad Qs] (two pair, Aces and Fives - Queen kicker)
    bigegypt said, "gg"
    NoraFlum said, "gg"
    bigegypt collected 126770 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 126770 | Rake 0
    Board [Td 9s Ac 5d 5s]
    Seat 1: PITU_poker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: AMAK316 showed [Js Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
    Seat 3: bigegypt showed [Ad Qs] and won (126770) with two pair, Aces and Fives
    Seat 4: NoraFlum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: bparis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: muttern2k (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Froggymizz (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: The X Force (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: TenthPlanet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  2. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 12:01am) in reply to amak316

    why would he raise on flop with a draw it would risk you reshoving him without him being able to peel off a turn card. so idk even though hes aggro i think you should piece this together and just let it go u got 55k and u can find a better spot. is he really gonna be dumb enough to raise ur continuation bet with an ace out there on some silly bluff? just smells funny. id just let it go.
     
  3. Believer82 Believer82 is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 12:48am) in reply to FishOnTilt

    I'd probly fold to
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  4. AGame18 AGame18 is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 1:07am) in reply to amak316

    The problem here is that there's no flush draw and he can only be up and down if he has QJ. I suppose he could have complete air here once in a rare while, but I tend to believe he would reraise preflop with any complete junk hand he decided to play. When he raises this flop, I think he has you beat an overwhelming majority of the time. If he has AK or AQ he has you dominated obv. If he flatted you preflop with a hand you dominate like A10 or A9 he now outflopped you also obv. Any lower ace I'd guess he reraises or folds preflop. The other problem is he might very likely play a strong hand fast here if he thinks you are strong as well. This would be a great spot to jam 99 or 10 10 if he thinks you might have AK or AQ because he will try to stack you on the flop. I think there are too many hands that beat you and not enough you beat to make a push here profitable. Sucks to flop top pair w/ decent kick and get raised on the flop by a LAG with a lot of chips........but I think folding is your best option here.
     
  5. stpauli111 stpauli111 is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 1:15am) in reply to AGame18

    this flop looks good but it is actually complete garbage. any ace that he called you with pre he is now beating you with and that is the only thing he will play back at you with. this is pretty much a c-bet and fold imo he could have QJ or 78 poss but anything else (and even these hands prob) he will just flat call you with.

    fwiw if hes playing aggressive enough you might have to make a stand but i would tend to think he generally has AJ beat if he plays back at you on this board more often than not no matter how aggr he has been playing.
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  6. TheEnDxxx TheEnDxxx is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 5:48am) in reply to AGame18

    I completely agree with AGame here. Way too many hands that beat you and the only way you're getting out of this alive is if he also has AJ which is very slim. Lay it down boy!!!

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  7. towelie towelie is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 5:55am) in reply to TheEnDxxx

    Ur praying for a chop or QJ. QJ is unlikely since egypt isn't a complete retard. AQ, AJ and ATs are most likely. ugly spot for u but it's bet/fold flop
  8. d2themfi d2themfi is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 6:28am) in reply to amak316

    super spewy postflop. Only thing we beat on the flop is QJ/air, with the latter being pretty infrequent. And qj has decent equity vs, ur hand
     
  9. charder charder is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2007 (7/25/2007 6:39am) in reply to d2themfi

    well bigeypgt never folds, so i like it against him more then anyone, but i still dont like it that much. I think your beat too often. You only beat random draws.
     
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