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  1. jbeafore jbeafore is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 9:37am)

    Hey guys i too am going to be in my senior year this year at WVU. I have had a job all through college and wanted to change that this year. It is my last year i wanted to enjoy it as well as have money. So my question to everyone is what do you guys think is the best way for me to pull a consistant amount in while in school so i dont have to keep my lame ass job (bellman/vallet). Do you thikn i should stick to cash games, or concentrate solely on MTT?? Any comments welcomed, thanks

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  2. supermoves supermoves is offline invented poker

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 9:51am) in reply to jbeafore

    I am CLEARLY not a pro player...but I do know several and ALL of them derive 80%-90% of their income from cash games or sng's. They play MTT's in hope of a big score, but I dont know any pros who make their money (or even a majority of it) from MTTs. So my suggestion, from observing the pros, is to play cash games and/or sng's to make your income. if you have some extra cash, you can play some MTT's and try to make a nice cash, but I wouldnt do that for your only income...think of cash games as your social security and MTTs as a part time job...haha!
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  3. BrooDogg BrooDogg is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 10:15am) in reply to supermoves

    MTT's and college don't mix well. They take up so much time, but if you can pull it off, all the power to ya. I know I couldn't, I dropped out of Robotics after my 2nd year. I'd suggest you play sit and go's if that's what works for ya. A friend of mine owns mini tournies, but cant grasp MTT final tables yet. He started at $10 mini's and worked his way up, now he only plays $100 minis and places in the money about 60%-75% of the time, which is more than enough money for a college student to need.

    Then again, you can never have enough money, because you'll always want more and more no matter what ya got.
     
  4. scramble scramble is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 10:20am) in reply to jbeafore

    stick to the sng till you have a pretty decent bankroll . the cash games are the real money but big swings. if you need fairly reliable stick to sngs.

    on a side note you might want to keep your hotel job. one of the cardinal rules of job hunting is dont quit till you have the next job in the bag. college is great but the first thing out of a future employers mouth is what work experience do you have. does not matter in what . 2yrs delivering pizza looks better to an employer than unemployed. they just want to know your reliable and get references. good luck
  5. N0b0dy N0b0dy is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 11:30am) in reply to jbeafore

    Wow, you are in the exact same situation I was 3 years ago. I had to pay for rent+ tuition + expenses, had some loans, but would have had to work crappy min wage job at library to get by so I created a system. At the time I had played a lot of poker, but couldn't win consistently online. I decided to create a system that allowed me to make just enough to pay my rent+ expenses each month. I started only playing $20 heads up matches. I would played 10-20 of them/day and throw in a $30 2 tabler every now and then for a break. It is long and it is boring. I had mastered heads up play before I was even a decent tournament player. I tracked everyone I played and result of every match in excel sheet and kept separate notes there. One thing led to another and by senior year I had all my bills paid off and was eating at the Japanese Steakhouse 3 times/week.

    Thing about it is sticking to a system. I played those $20 hus and eventually $50 hus 10-20 times/day for over a year without moving up to anything big. I'd play $3 sattelites to get into the $215 and got there almost every week. Most of time I cashed the $T and used em for hus. When you playing as a job to pay bills never play outside your bankroll it can kill you, even if competition is weak, my backround of my computer still says "On Aug 13, you lost 8 consectuive all ins overpair vs underpair on pokerstars, never forget this." That day crushed me, but what really crushed me was playing all $530 1 tablers when I shouldn't have been playing that hi. Your goal is to make X # of dollars that you would have made working the part time job, but with your own flexible hours and work from your room. The most important thing I can stress is find a system and stick to that system, no wandering. Heads ups might not be your game, maybe 1 tablers, maybe a certain cash game. Do the math/averages/hr and find something that works. This should be boring and frustrating, not fun or exciting at all, if it is, you are playing too high limits. Once and awhile treat yourself to a multitable tourny for that assume the buyin as a loss, sattelites are good too.
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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 12:01pm) in reply to N0b0dy

    Wow, its things like this that remind me why I never would want to rely on poker for my only income. I don't mean to knock on this post, or the people out there that do play for a living. This seems like a smart way to go. But I'm not much of a grinder. I think I love the competition as much as the money, and I just don't think I could ever have the patience for this. All credit to people who do, but no thanks. Much prefer poker as a profitable hobby.
  7. BP8499 BP8499 is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 2:04pm) in reply to Gabovitch

    just goto the WSOp with any 10k u can find...then what you have to do is win it.....just take firstplace dont fold qauds and you should be fine.....if they have a str8 flush there is always next year...7.5 million is a good start...next you will want to goto the belagio and bring 500k or soo into the big game....ask doyle to borrow his hat and then clean out all those guys you can probly make about 200k a day if you dont fold qauds....thats just my advise...20 dollar heards up...nahhhh
  8. Movin on up Movin on up is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 3:06pm) in reply to jbeafore

    Keep your job and play poker consistantly for a month. See if you can make enough on just poker to support yourself before quiting. I was making $100+ a day off of $10 SnGs for over a week so I thought it would be easy, but it's not. Bad runs and bad beats are killers. ir you lose $100 in one day thats -$200 then you try and figure out a way to make that back and you lose even more. Then the software keeps freezing up on you if you play online. Anyways, shit happens and you must account for that.
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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 3:06pm) in reply to supermoves

    Interesting--

    It just happens to be--that most pros make their main source of income---in the games they do best at.

    It happens that some are cash games--and some are tournys. It just depends on what you naturally are best at.

    The games are drastically different and most players usually have a knack for one or the other. A selected few do very well at both.

    I guarantee you that Pros such as Men the Master, Amir Vahedi, Greg Raymer, John Phan, and many others known and not so well known (especially those on the California/WPT tournament circuit), make the majority of their money playing tournaments.

    So--find what mode you excel at and play it.

    Good Luck.
  10. jbeafore jbeafore is offline

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    Jul 11th, 2005 (7/11/2005 8:01pm) in reply to Movin on up

    thanks alot guys for you opinions
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