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Collusion in the pokerstars double up or nothing?

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  1. deucewolf32 deucewolf32 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 11:16am)

    When registering you will notice almost the same 6 players are on all the other tables at a certain stake. While playing, you can tell most are solid players. They know when someone has to fold due to a smaller stack at the table, being pot committed especially when having a huge stack with 6 left. But, when it comes deep against each other they make such insane folds and you laugh like no way they fold that to me. They are way too smart of a player to fold that.

    For example: 6 way blinds 200/400.... bb has 5 k in chips, sb has 635.. he pushes all in.. bb has 235 chips more to end the game, but folds to a regular (friend possibly). One of many examples I have seen, that makes me think a lot of collusion goes on. I'd bet most of the players have AIM or MSN and lick their chops when they see a none regular sit at the table. Impossible to beat solid players that help each other out consistantly if at all.
     
  2. MFT77 MFT77 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 11:30am) in reply to deucewolf32

    I'll give you some of my thoughts, since i've grinded these for the past year and a bit since Stars came out with these. Not sure of the $ level you're playing at.

    I'm not exactly sure, but pokerstars will find the players colluding as i have had over 20 credits back to my account where they have found 2 players colluding.

    I play up to 40 at one time and many times there are many regulars seated at many of my same tables, and i can't speak for others but since we have so much action going on that on many occasions i fold crappy hands even for maybe 100 or 200 more chips when i've been in the blind for 300 or 400. Sometimes i have so many chips, i just fold to the $ and don't will let the others bust themselves. Every chip can be valuable so i will fold crap hands on bubble even for a few more chips.

    Sometimes pot-committed doesn't mean much in DON's compared to a regular tourney or cash-game. If i have 5000 chips i may fold no matter what and there are also many times when i should call, but because of too much action at a particular time, i accidently fold.

    As sick as this sounds i have folded AA and KK too many times to count, just because of a mislclick.

    Keep up the faith as i believe if 2 regs are colluding then Pokerstars will catch them.

    Gluck to you.
  3. deucewolf32 deucewolf32 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 11:58am) in reply to MFT77

    Thanks for your response, I totally can see that point of view as well.

    But, do you ever think during bubble time, I can help out this regular and bubble the non reg. and maybe he will return the favor in the future? I haven't played enough to figure it out completely, but for all the poker I've played in my life, things seem sketchy in those.

    do you mind if I ask what kind of swings you go on playing so many?
     
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  4. Nickc011 Nickc011 is offline The Law

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 12:21pm) in reply to deucewolf32

    All of these grinders are playing a ton of tables, is it possible he just clicked check/fold when he saw his hand and moved on to a new table?
     
  5. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 12:25pm) in reply to Nickc011

     
    Originally Posted by Nickc011 View Post

    All of these grinders are playing a ton of tables, is it possible he just clicked check/fold when he saw his hand and moved on to a new table?

    this is possible
    it alwys happens on accident, playing 15+ tables, see 62o and an option to call or fold, instinct says fold, then u just realize what u did
     
  6. Mrfreeze53 Mrfreeze53 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2010 (1/27/2010 12:50pm) in reply to deucewolf32

    Ive grinded my fair share of DON's (10k games at varying stakes), and as someone who sees the same regulars all the time, I dont collude with any of them, the simplest answer is the one already mentioned when your 25+ tabling is you hit check fold and then you realize it when its to late, plain and simple. I also know quite a few regs at the $20 level who try to go out of there way to bust other regulars if anything its the opposite.
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    Jan 28th, 2010 (1/28/2010 12:22am) in reply to deucewolf32

    For me, i never think about helping another out, cause i don't wanna cheat and get my account disabled when i can make $ on these with my own style. Not worth the risk.

    Right now on my worst streak ever, barely a profit over the last 2400 games, but usually run at about a 58% win rate playing the regular non-turbos. Not sure what's going on this month, but maybe some really bad variance and obviously running bad. But previously won every month in 2009.
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    Jan 28th, 2010 (1/28/2010 12:23am) in reply to Nickc011

    i've done this on many occasions.
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