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Confusing villian / best line for max value?

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  1. Pooplips Pooplips is offline I collect boogers

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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 9:54pm)

    I know its early but this guy has already taken some strange lines and was caught bluffing once. Also has made some huge overshoves preflop. So I'm assuming hes just some random guy with no real volume.

    Just wanted to know what the best line to take here is?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #21468336703: MSOP Event #17 (163864887), Table 129 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:47:11 ET - 2010/06/08
    Seat 1: lazybum45ms (3,410)
    Seat 2: Jaffa-x (1,755)
    Seat 3: sir_fuxxx (9,375)
    Seat 4: eyed (3,835)
    Seat 5: Hootis Wood (4,708)
    Seat 6: Pooplips (3,240)
    Seat 7: DonkinAround (1,672)
    Seat 8: ongblap (3,580)
    Seat 9: Regullaris (5,510)
    Pooplips posts the small blind of 40
    DonkinAround posts the big blind of 80
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Pooplips [Jc Jh]
    ongblap folds
    Regullaris folds
    lazybum45ms folds
    Jaffa-x folds
    sir_fuxxx folds
    eyed folds
    Hootis Wood has 15 seconds left to act
    Hootis Wood raises to 170
    Pooplips calls 130
    DonkinAround calls 90
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Kd Th]
    Pooplips checks
    DonkinAround checks
    Hootis Wood checks
    *** TURN *** [Jd Kd Th] [Kc]
    Pooplips bets 325
    DonkinAround folds
    Hootis Wood raises to 960
    Pooplips has 15 seconds left to act
    ???
  2. blackstar74 blackstar74 is offline

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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 10:00pm) in reply to Pooplips

    What are your thoughts with the check on the flop, you c/c or c/r?

    Also I dont think he is checking KT or KJ generally but this is a higher bi than what I play I think so im not that familiar with the play. I usually overplay this and just jam the turn and hope he has a K, or AQ.
    Edited By: blackstar74 Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:01 PM
  3. Pooplips Pooplips is offline I collect boogers

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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 10:01pm) in reply to blackstar74

    He had been pretty agressive and I thought his range would hit pretty good with this flop so I was going for a c/r but it didnt work out lol
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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 10:12pm) in reply to Pooplips

     
    Originally Posted by Pooplips View Post

    He had been pretty agressive and I thought his range would hit pretty good with this flop so I was going for a c/r but it didnt work out lol

    I figured you were prolly going for that, but do you think people are betting on that type of flop? Even in my neck of the woods they generally shy away from getting to fancy on these flops. I think the turn is great for you obv, just wonder if flatting might get you more chips.
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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 10:25pm) in reply to blackstar74

    Ok but if I flat do I lead the river? or look to c/r?

    on the flop I think he would bet alot of hands to semi protect from the flush draw (KQ, AK, AQ, etc)... That said I guess his check eighter means hes weak or he has AQ and is playing slow.. Eighter way on the turn I have him crushed so I guess just calling his turn raise is best.

    Now if I check the river he is most likely checking everything back. So I think I can value bet and get calls from AK, KQ, Q9, and AQ and fold out everything else he would have.

    I ended up shoving thinking he was slow playing AQ or something and he insta mucked which prob meant hes an idiot and had nothing.
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  6. blackstar74 blackstar74 is offline

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    Jun 8th, 2010 (6/8/2010 10:39pm) in reply to Pooplips

    yeah I definitely think you have to lead the river if you flat cause like you say they are checking so much behind. but I think you get a call alot there too, but if he instamucked he probably wasnt calling anything.

    So playing hindsite poker maybe a check on the river was best to give him a chance to hang himself, but I dont really like this line ever really.
    Edited By: blackstar74 Jun 8th, 2010 at 10:41 PM
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