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could i have extracted more?

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  1. Cast-P Cast-P is offline

    Markham
    Canada

    Posts: 76
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    Feb 15th, 2008 (2/15/2008 1:23am)

    hes been raising 3x with qs 4x with jacks..
    so i put him on aa or ak with the min raise..

    pokerstars Game #15294074575: Tournament #77206062, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2008/02/15 - 02:13:14 (ET)
    Table '77206062 169' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: UND2Play (36063 in chips)
    Seat 2: johnstaton (125752 in chips)
    Seat 3: Kidam (22482 in chips)
    Seat 4: Cast-P (54655 in chips)
    Seat 5: dickkemp (14659 in chips)
    Seat 6: LuckyLuccki (24761 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bumble_Bee00 (7045 in chips)
    Seat 8: JoeReckless (47080 in chips)
    Seat 9: MadKol (31186 in chips)
    UND2Play: posts the ante 125
    johnstaton: posts the ante 125
    Kidam: posts the ante 125
    Cast-P: posts the ante 125
    dickkemp: posts the ante 125
    LuckyLuccki: posts the ante 125
    Bumble_Bee00: posts the ante 125
    JoeReckless: posts the ante 125
    MadKol: posts the ante 125
    Kidam: posts small blind 600
    Cast-P: posts big blind 1200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Cast-P [Qh Kh]
    dickkemp: folds
    LuckyLuccki: folds
    Bumble_Bee00: folds
    JoeReckless: raises 1200 to 2400
    MadKol: folds
    UND2Play: folds
    johnstaton: folds
    Kidam: folds
    Cast-P: calls 1200
    *** FLOP *** [Kd 5c 6d]
    Cast-P: checks
    JoeReckless: bets 3600
    Cast-P: calls 3600
    *** TURN *** [Kd 5c 6d] [Qs]
    Cast-P: checks
    Cast-P said, "diamond!!"
    JoeReckless: bets 3600
    Cast-P: raises 44930 to 48530 and is all-in
    JoeReckless: folds
    Cast-P collected 20925 from pot
    Cast-P: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 20925 | Rake 0
    Board [Kd 5c 6d Qs]
    Seat 1: UND2Play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: johnstaton (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Kidam (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Cast-P (big blind) collected (20925)
    Seat 5: dickkemp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: LuckyLuccki folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Bumble_Bee00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: JoeReckless folded on the Turn
    Seat 9: MadKol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. felloff felloff is offline

    Edmonton
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    Feb 15th, 2008 (2/15/2008 1:38am) in reply to Cast-P

    yes maybe don't yell out that your waiting for a diamond.. your not fooling anybody
  3. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

    Westland, MI
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    Feb 15th, 2008 (2/15/2008 9:05am) in reply to felloff

    Well, since we don't know what he has, it's hard to say (I also hate the yelling out for a diamond. Problem is, I think you end up giving up inadvertant tells that way unless your careful. Some players can do it, I'd rather not.

    Here, I think your read is off. I think both AA and AK call your bet there. Unless he had a solid read on you, I think it's a mistake to fold either one of those hands to your average donk at this level (don't know if your a donk or not, but at $2, I assume everyone is until I get a read otherwise).

    So, without knowing his hand, it's hard to tell if you could extract anything else. Maybe you didn't want to see a river card anyway. From the way played, I could easily see something like a JJ or a 1010 type hand. He thought you might be calling without the King (with no reraise and the check on the turn). Once you bet the turn heavy, he knows he's beat, so why call.
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