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    i woke up this morning at 9am UK time and quicky fired up stars to see if any friends had gone deep in any tournies and i stumbled across a very crazy deal being discussed!

    It was the Wednesday quarter million on stars…..$300+20 on xmas eve/day.
    Thay3r just got busted 4<SUP>th</SUP> for $19,500 and refused to deal.

    With the blinds at 6k/12k with a running ante of 1.2k these were the current stack sizes.

    Iggyry 853726

    BP7000 400693

    Pokie75 338581

    Prizes were

    1<SUP>st</SUP> $47,500

    2<SUP>nd</SUP> $35,000

    3<SUP>rd</SUP> $25,625

    After asking for a deal these numbers were roughly given based on the chip count deal. Didn’t have time to note them before table closed…but its give or take the spare 100 or 200 dollars each

    Iggyry $43,000

    BP7000 $33,000

    Pokie75 $32,000

    Then amazingly iggyry says in chat I want 45k……….both guys say ok straight away and the new prizes were set at:

    Iggyry $45,000

    BP7000 $32,000

    Pokie75 $31,000

    I am no dumbass but this deal is crazy! How the hell do people get away with this daylight robbery…..look at the stack sizes relative to the blinds, there is so much play left in this tourne. They have in the region of 30bb each with iggyry having roughly 70bb……

    Maybe im being abit harsh but to increase the guarantee from $25,625 to $31,000 whilst taking away the opportunity of potentially earning $47,500 seems completely insane given the stacks. But I have to admire Iggyry for his negotiating skills!

    I know one thing for sure it is now Christmas day and I was going to swerve poker today but with the crazy overlays and completely insane deals I have witnessed today I think I will fire up an mtt session. Lets hope that I find some guys who are in the ‘Christmas spirit’!

    Just abit of light hearted reading which i hope you guys find as amusing as me. This deal still makes me laugh! hahahahaha
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  2. <TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH>Player</TH><TH>Chips</TH><TH>Prob 1st</TH><TH>Prob 2nd</TH><TH>Prob 3rd</TH><TH>Equity</TH></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Player 1
    </TD><TD>853726.000000</TD><TD>0.5359</TD><TD>0.3248</TD><TD>0.1393</TD><TD>$40392.92</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Player 2
    </TD><TD>400693.000000</TD><TD>0.2515</TD><TD>0.3584</TD><TD>0.3901</TD><TD>$34486.99</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Player 3
    </TD><TD>338581.000000</TD><TD>0.2125</TD><TD>0.3169</TD><TD>0.4706</TD><TD>$33245.10</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    ^^In case anyone was curious. The 43k figure given was even horrendous.
  3. wow that was a quick reply.....nice
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  4. jenn what are you doing up at this ungodly hour anyways?
  5. Where can I get this chop equity calculator?
     
  6. ICM
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  7. ICM Calculator: 3 places <<use this with 3 or fewer left because it's better

    ICM Calculator: 10 places
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    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    ICM Calculator: 3 places <<use this with 3 or fewer left because it's better

    ICM Calculator: 10 places

    tyvm jennifear........

    this is super useful.
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  9.  
    Originally Posted by cod meharly View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    ICM Calculator: 3 places <<use this with 3 or fewer left because it's better

    ICM Calculator: 10 places

    tyvm jennifear........

    this is super useful.

    np... id love to see what the admin who quoted those weird figures was using!
  10. Support on stars would use 25,625 (3rd place money for the remaining three) then use chip equity for the remaining 82,500.
  11. I actually think the originally proposed chip split is reasonable based on the facts presented. Each player gets third place money and the balance of the pool is split based on chip count. That total is added to the third place money. Again, an argument can me made for continuing to play, but I feel this is a fair way to do it if the game were to stop right here.

    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="586"><col width="309"> <col span="3" width="71"> <col width="64"> <tbody><tr height="21"><td width="71">1st</td><td width="71">2nd</td><td width="71">3rd</td><td width="64">Total</td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">Prize Money</td><td>$47,500</td><td>$35,000</td><td>$25,625</td><td>$108,125</td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">CHIP TOTALS</td><td>853,726</td><td>400,693</td><td>338,581</td><td>1,593,000</td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">% OF TOTAL</td><td>53.59%</td><td>25.15%</td><td>21.25%</td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">EACH PLAYER GETS 3rd PLACE MONEY</td><td>$25,625</td><td>$25,625</td><td>$25,625</td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">PRIZE POOL REMAINING</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td>$31,250</td></tr><tr height="21"><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td height="21">CHIP % SPLIT OF REMAINING PRIZE POOL</td><td>$16,747.61</td><td>$7,860.42</td><td>$6,641.97</td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr height="21"><td>$42,372.61</td><td>$33,485.42</td><td>$32,266.97</td><td></td></tr></tbody></table>
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  12. just saw DonProvolone's post above...yeah, like Don said.
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  13.  
    Originally Posted by PDI88 View Post

    just saw DonProvolone's post above...yeah, like Don said.

    Don did his spreadsheet quicker than me. I got the exact same answer.

    Interesting that chip chop can be that different than ICM. (And wonder how many in a chop negot. would know it..........)
     
  14. yeah very interesting stuff....
    thanks for all the figures guys i really did not realise that the 2 chop methods gave different figures. As for the 1st place guy getting another 2k on top....MERRY XMAS! ;)
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  15. this is why i couldn't work with pokerstars support...

    "Moderator24: do you guys accept this deal?

    Iggyry: yes

    BP7000: yes

    Pokie75: yes

    Moderator24: ...you guys are retards"
  16. <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" width="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">altho this is funny this is nowhere near close to the craziest deal ever .. i forget who it was but some1 posted it on here awhile ago where 1st place made a deal with 3 people left where he actually got more than the 1st place prize .. and it was for good money too ... if any1 remembers the exact people involved or tourny then chime in but that was ridiculous ...
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    Originally Posted by Etrain99 View Post

    <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">altho this is funny this is nowhere near close to the craziest deal ever .. i forget who it was but some1 posted it on here awhile ago where 1st place made a deal with 3 people left where he actually got more than the 1st place prize .. and it was for good money too ... if any1 remembers the exact people involved or tourny then chime in but that was ridiculous ...
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    lololol man thats funny!
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  18.  
    Originally Posted by Etrain99 View Post

    <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"><TBODY><TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off">altho this is funny this is nowhere near close to the craziest deal ever .. i forget who it was but some1 posted it on here awhile ago where 1st place made a deal with 3 people left where he actually got more than the 1st place prize .. and it was for good money too ... if any1 remembers the exact people involved or tourny then chime in but that was ridiculous ...
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    Doubt it's me you're thinking of, but I did this once, before I had a clue on chopping:

    http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for.../p/13515#13515

    LOL :-)

    WarGawd
  19. its still anyones game and to just take 6k more when you could win 20k more . even if they didnt take the deal, they can still take second and get just as much...why throw away the chance at 20k more? seems like a lose/lose/win deal....iggy took first place without a fight hahaha

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