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Crazy Story from Turning Stone casino bad beat jackpot

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  1. VitoRoma VitoRoma is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 7:56pm)

    A dealer told me this while i was there over the weekend. finding this saved me the time of writing the whole story out
    http://www.onlinepoker.net/poker-new...-returned/9136

    BTW: The dealer i talked to said they found out he was staying there and asked for some of it back and the fool gave them $10k in cash lol

    heres another video
    http://www.wktv.com/news/local/113387759.html
    Edited By: VitoRoma Feb 2nd, 2011 at 09:38 PM
  2. newman2079 newman2079 is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 8:06pm) in reply to VitoRoma

    Wow they make you pay $2 for a poker card? WEAK!
  3. VitoRoma VitoRoma is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 8:11pm) in reply to newman2079

    I can't beleave he would just hand over 10k because he was scared. The Security guy who reviewed the tape and missed it the first few time was also fired lol
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  4. clantaztic clantaztic is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 8:11pm) in reply to VitoRoma

    this is bull shit, f*ck the 2$ card
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 8:38pm) in reply to VitoRoma

    They will sue him if he doesn't pay up.. Dealer will probably be in hot water as well if that is public knowledge.. Never heard of a place that charges for a poker card, seems like if he is paying the rake he should be entitled, but I guess he is screwed one way or the other..
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  6. Drinking Buddy Drinking Buddy is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 9:15pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

    i really don't see them winning the lawsuit they obviously should have checked this information out before paying the guy....it'd be like someone winning the lottery and getting the money and then a few weeks/months later being expected to repay it.....hrmmmmmm
     
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 9:19pm) in reply to Drinking Buddy

    $2 for a players card That such a frigging joke They should be ashamed that part of the story leaked
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 9:32pm) in reply to Popperhead

    They will never win a lawsuit they can ask for the money back but te perso in under no obligation to pay it back. I work in a cardroom where a bad beat was paid out and too much was given to the players they asked for it back and they got none. The only recourse the casino has is to ban them from the casino until he pays back the money.
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 9:34pm) in reply to michaelk300

    The dealer i talked to said no one who re-viewed the tape caught it, the dealer missed it and the guy who reviews it after that first guy missed it. they caught it after the main security guy did the final viewing lol i guess his friend ran up to the cage in the poker room bought a $2 card and the player slide the card onto the table FTW
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  10. in4games in4games is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 9:59pm) in reply to VitoRoma

    it's not even a players card. I'm pretty sure at turning stone every day if you want to qualify for the bad beat jackpot you have to go to a desk by this 2 dollar piece of paper which is allows you the opportunity to win it. It's not just a 2$ card u have to keep with you it's pretty fucking gay imo and obv just another money maker.
     
  11. SpankyHamm SpankyHamm is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 10:11pm) in reply to in4games

    Here's my argument for the guy keeping the money.

    The casino was collecting money from this player (and other players without the poker card) to fund the bad beat jackpot even though he was not eligible for the jackpot. If they don't offer an option to opt out of the BBJ rake or offer non-BBJ tables, then the implication was that all players would be eligible.

    If he has to give that money back, then I would say that anyone without a poker card would have the right to ask for their BBJ rake back.
     
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 10:35pm) in reply to SpankyHamm

    this is absurd, they made the mistake, IT'S THEIR FAULT!!!!! imo if they try to sue this guy it will never go through.
     
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 10:57pm) in reply to silkhandlez

    ffs this thread should be merged with the douchnozzel that thinks he shouldn't repay his debt to stars. The guy didn't buy his 2$ shit ticket he lies about having one guy should have to pay the money back plus interest for being a bitch
     
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 11:00pm) in reply to in4games

    My brother was at the table when this happened. Once they realized that kid didn't have his poker card, another player from the table ran up and bought him a poker card and the kid tried to slyly put it onto the table without anyone knowing. The dealer was aware that he didnt' have a poker card but figured he was gonna rake it in on the tip from the BBJ so obv didnt' say anything. He was fired a week later.
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    Feb 2nd, 2011 (2/2/2011 11:32pm) in reply to Drinking Buddy

     
    Originally Posted by Drinking Buddy View Post

    i really don't see them winning the lawsuit they obviously should have checked this information out before paying the guy....it'd be like someone winning the lottery and getting the money and then a few weeks/months later being expected to repay it.....hrmmmmmm

    this... how can the casino expect to win this suit when it was there fault for not checking to make sure that the guy had the necessary documentation to qualify for the JP
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 7:16am) in reply to OfxAxRevolution

    They can expect to win the suit because the player took someone else's cards which has to be illegal and potentially fraudulent. I do side a little with the player because he was probably paying rake towards the jackpot, but chances a court would side with the casino and bigger chance it will be settled outside of court if it goes into a legal process.
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 10:23am) in reply to wackyJaxon

    it won't go to court and i would say he gives back 50% in mediation and everyones happy, but seriously the casino is fkd up
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 10:31am) in reply to norv

    yeah if it was a poker card it would have had his name and or pic or something on it... this $2 thing seems like a ticket you buy every day (or session) to be eligible for this jackpot... If so what a rig Leave the dude alone... They are gonna spend 50K to get back the money anyway.. GG poker room
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 10:35am) in reply to Doomswitch

    I am at TS 15-20 times a year, isn't it pretty std for the dealer to make sure that you have your card infront of you before dealing you into the hand? That has always been the case when i have been there.
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 3:38pm) in reply to sellittojohn

    They're going to spend a ton of money suing, just so that someone else can win that money. It seems like they're going to get way more negative publicity than it's worth. I hate the idea of going into a poker room and paying $2 for the day just to be able to qualify. I've never heard of this before, and find it VERY poor business practices. The rake is high enough already.
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    Feb 3rd, 2011 (2/3/2011 3:43pm) in reply to premierw

    I was playing at a local room this weekend and I had a dealer who used to deal in Atlantic City. The table was talking about the bad beat jackpot and how nice it would be and all that crap and he told us he worked at a casino in Atlantic City where not only did the guy who won the badbeat jackpot not get the money... HE WAS ARRESTED!!! Apparently he told the casino to bar him for however long about a month before... so when he won... he was arrested for tresspassing. Ironic??
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    Feb 4th, 2011 (2/4/2011 12:28pm) in reply to vandy525

    the $2 card isn't to win the jackpot it is just standard and was always in place. Another way for those bastards to make extra which is why i don't go there anymore. Also there rake went up which helps pay the bad beat jackpot lol
    Edited By: VitoRoma Feb 4th, 2011 at 06:03 PM
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    Feb 4th, 2011 (2/4/2011 2:56pm) in reply to VitoRoma

     
    Originally Posted by VitoRoma View Post

    the $2 card isn't to win the jackpot it is just standard and was always in place. Another was for those bastards to make extra which is why i don't go there anymore. Also there rake went up which helps pay the bad beat jackpot lol

    i am pretty sure gay ass NY state makes TS require the players card which has nothing to do w/ the bbj
    Edited By: Iplaythabored Feb 4th, 2011 at 02:57 PM
     
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    Feb 4th, 2011 (2/4/2011 4:23pm) in reply to Iplaythabored

    First off, the casino saying the money was "stolen" sounds libelous to me. I would have my attorney counter-sue them for defamation of character.

    Secondly, it sounds like the casino is selling $2 tickets to a raffle (the BBJ) so I'd have my lawyer explore the legality of this raffle and ask for a full accounting of all this money since inception.

    Thirdly, I would argue that the casino did an insufficient job of making sure all players knew of the requirement in advance.

    Fourth, the casino failed to make sure he had the proper "status" to win the money before they gave it to him so it's their fault not his.

    Fifth, TS sounds like it's run by a bunch of weasels. Horrible PR if u ask me.

    I hope they don't recover a cent.
    Edited By: Cabo Feb 4th, 2011 at 04:24 PM
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    Feb 4th, 2011 (2/4/2011 9:00pm) in reply to Cabo

    Proof we are still in a RECESSION.
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    Feb 11th, 2011 (2/11/2011 11:18am) in reply to felipebball

     
    Originally Posted by felipebball View Post

    My brother was at the table when this happened. Once they realized that kid didn't have his poker card, another player from the table ran up and bought him a poker card and the kid tried to slyly put it onto the table without anyone knowing. The dealer was aware that he didnt' have a poker card but figured he was gonna rake it in on the tip from the BBJ so obv didnt' say anything. He was fired a week later.


    Lol hope he got a fantastic tip. I personally wouldn't give back a dime, the casino clearly messed up here.
     
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